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Old 05-18-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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I used to think that Mr. Trump, for all of his failings, was 'loyal' to those around him. Why? I guess because his supporters kept saying so, and also because he does have people in his organization that have been with him for years.


Yet, I must revise my opinion. I think his loyalty is only to himself, and to his children (yes, I did not include his wife). I would not be surprised if Mr. Trump took the stand on his own behalf at some point, and began pointing fingers at everyone around him, including Sean Spicer and Kellyanne Conway.
Yeah--I don't think Trump is loyal to anyone but himself and children. (It's abundantly clear he's not loyal to his wife.) He won't hesitate to blame anyone and everyone else for any wrongdoing.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:08 PM
 
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I think that Trump is catching on to the fact that there may be something here. And I suspect he may be being honest about it. Won't matter because of other stuff though.

Interesting times.

Im open to the idea of Trump just being incompetent and NOT a Russian stooge still.
It is completely possible that Trump did not collude whatsoever.

Hillary was likely to continue the Obama policies of insisting that Assad must go and that moderate rebels (that turn out to be ISIS over and over again) need to be armed.

Russia needs Assad to protect their geo-political interests, as Assad gives Russia a Mediterranean port. This Russian port is jeopardized with a continuation of Obama policies. Russia would have wanted any republican to beat Hillary.

The fact that Trump is taking an increasingly harder line against Assad is not good for Putin.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Yeah, he's not a details guy. His personal direction to his campaign likely didn't get much deeper than "go get me elected".
I imagine this is probably the closest thing to the truth. Trump is about that shallow.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:16 PM
 
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Opinion again-no factual basis that screams it...just lots of information.

Manafort. He's been taking Russian money for a while via purchasing expensive real estate with a bank of Cyprus loan, he defaults via a shell company, they fail to file correctly in court. BAM. millions laundered.

This guy is known worldwide for stuff. He helps elect presidents, and he may help take one down now.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:22 PM
 
Location: sumter
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His firing comey just open another can of worms. If he could do that all over again, I bet he would think twice about that. Comey, wasted no time in his payback for the firing.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:25 PM
 
Location: So California
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Interesting change in phrasing. I think he is revving up the bus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/u...hunt.html?_r=0


That's all anyone can do.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Loyalty to him, is a one-way street.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:28 PM
 
Location: "Daytonnati"
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His firing comey just open another can of worms.


Agree. He revved up the controversy that sort of was simmering but not boiling over yet...



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Old 05-18-2017, 03:28 PM
 
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Interesting change in phrasing. I think he is revving up the bus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/u...hunt.html?_r=0

Definitely some intriguing language here. One could interpret this as him laying the groundwork to play stupid and pretend he didn't know what was happening in his own administration/White House if any wrongdoings/corruption eventually come out.

Will be interesting to see how these statements fit into the whole picture.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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I think that Trump is catching on to the fact that there may be something here. And I suspect he may be being honest about it. Won't matter because of other stuff though.

Interesting times.

Im open to the idea of Trump just being incompetent and NOT a Russian stooge still.
I'm also open to the possibility that he's incompetent enough to not realize that his underlings/staff were dirty and he didn't even know it...I guess we'll see what happens if anything comes to light.
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