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Originally Posted by Kibby
I'm not sure I'm "surprised", but I was certainly pleased. I voted for Trump, but I was never a supporter of Trump until there was no other option. I never thought his speech would be "catastrophe" - his first speech outside of the "Trump Rallies" was to AIPAC and he did well with that - he CAN discipline himself.
I've never seen anyone like Trump and I've never seen the vitriol toward a new President the way we have with the 2016 election. It's way over the Top and it's a major concern when the US Media is openly attempting to "Take Down" the President of the United States. It's actually shocking ..... and it's very dangerous to our National Security and our Democratic Process.
I've always counted on Congress to "do their job" .... which is basically Domestic Policy/Law and a part of the Republic Balance as a "check on power". The main task of the President has always been Foreign Policy and it's always been my main concern and focus.
Now .....
We can't count on Congress to do their job.
We can't count on the Press to do their job.
We can't even count on the Judiciary to do their job.
Donald Trump is a Wild Card.
There is a possibility that a new force is rising with no controls - the Intelligence Community
I'm not as worried as I was, but the times are very unsettling - today was a good day.
I wasn't sure that Donald Trump would be as Up Front as needed with the Arab World - he did good.
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You must have been off the planet into the outer galaxies during the past 8 yrs of Republican Obstructionist madness, of their taking a
"Pledge to Defeat Obama",
"Shutting Down the Government",
not supporting him Appointing the Supreme Court Nominee", and the
constant attacks and EVERY Republican Congressman Running on a Single Phrase... "Oppose Obama"... All of a suddenly you are now concerned about opposition to the President because he's your guy. Geez !!!! SELECTIVE AMNESIA must be a standard Republican Symptom, that has become like a life consuming infection.
Republican Attack Obama because he would not create another war in Libya, and Syria, and because he would not re-initiate the War in Iraq , They even
attacked him because he followed through on the Bush/Iraq Resolution to withdraw Troops by a pre arranged date. They
attacked him because of Equal Pay for Women, and they
attacked him because of Minimum Wage Hikes, and
even attacked him for Helping American's during a Republican Generated Economic Crash... Guess you don't remember either how
they constructively torpedo's the Solar Energy Program, and then
Attacked him because of HAMP... They
attacked his vacation, while now,
they support Trump spending Millions upon Millions flying back and forth to Florida, while spending more Millions Protecting his wife, and not one has they complained about him not utilizing Camp David for his so called business meeting.
Republican are a piece of work, they have no room to say anything about anything. But with their severe case of
Selective Amnesia and Delusion of Entitlement, they think its 1950's when no matter what a white man does, they sanction and support it. but they attacked the mere presence of a black man and everything about him, his family and his Presidency.
They
attacked the ACA,
and now you and the rest of us see what Trump has presented which is a F_Y_ plan to the working poor in American and now he has attacked the Children with his proposed cuts to SNAP and he attacked the disable and disable with his cuts to Medicaid and then the disabled who utilize SSD, are also under attack.
But Republican don't see anything wrong with any of that. It's Ludricous !!!!!!!!!!
No one after all that madness, care about Republican being angry because no one is kissing Trumps Butt. And no one is going to close a blind eye to the madness he pushed for 8 yrs against Obama, nor of the Madness he promoted during his campaign. His history of gangster money, foreign illicit money, Russian collusion about our politics and money is not going to be swept under the rug and Democrats and Independents are not going to suddenly get some wild case of "Selective Amnesia" and pretend none of this stuff is real.
It is not a streth of the imagination to wonder why and how the Arab may be skeptical of his sudden tonality change when he's in their country. Maybe seeing their level of wealthy may have opened his eyes, and seeing they are not some people with just rags on their head living in mud huts. They are a society, and they have wealthy and power far greater than anything Trump could himself imagine to gain or have.
We know he is impressed by Opulence, and what he has seen has likely shocked the heck out of him to realize he is basically a peon on the wealth scale when standing in the midst of so many mega billionaires who could buy and sell him, 1000 times over. That's likely enough to have humbled him in ways he never imagined. Now one complained when he bowed after they put the medallion around his neck. and no one complained when he engaged the sword dance.
Republican need to cut the crap on their 'double standards"... this is not the 1950's separate but unequal madness, and it certainly is not a society where the delusion of "white is right"... This is America, where equality will not accept taking a back seat because Republican detest the ideal of it.
American's are not stupid, they know for 6 yrs Republican have been working behind the scenes to push Insurance companies to raise rates and for companies to back out, as a constructive plan to try and make ACA difficult and make it fail... For 6 yrs they did Absolutely Nothing to try and improve it, and they did all they could to block provisions that would have made it a resounding success. America's are well aware of that, and more are becoming more informed and aware every day.
Arab Nations, listended, but they did not fall over themselves because Trumps speech writer used much of the same content that Obama has been promoting for 8 yrs, about diplomacy, working together and supporting the Arabs to take the lead roles in their countries to fight Terrorism. These people know all the Stuff Trump said, and they know about his attempts at restricting various Muslim Nations.
American's were not against security vetting, they are against how he went about it, and how he mass labeled a whole religion of people. American also know about Bannon, and his program ideology that is focused on the concept of Muslim take over. They don't know how to factor Trumps sudden change of tone in his speech. BUT... they do know he loves money, and a few 100 Billion dollars is nothing to the Arab Nation, they know when they put a money deal on the table, they had Trump where they prefer him to be, and that is focused on the Money Deals.... He will say anything, when money is on the table, and these people know it.
Saudi Arabia, said more than a year ago, when the younger guy took over, that they were embarking on a plan to "diversity" rather than solely depending on "oil", they know the future of Oil has a time line for change, and they have a 25 yrs plan to diversity and build their economy in a far different spectrum of options.
All Arabs know of the Natural Resources that can be mined in Afghanistan, and they are not going to let that fall into Western Hands, nor Eastern Hands, that is evident and the Soviets found that out in the 1980's... America is finding it out more and more every day.
China and the AIIB is taking shape and making massive moves, but what China does is build coalitions and create mutual benefit deals with nations that have resources, they don't go out getting into conflict and war games with nations far away from them, They have build a coalition, that is not under the controls of the World Bank, and they have 57 Nation as members of the AIIB.... China went into Africa with aim and intent to build "mutual benefit relations", which includes infrastructure and Natural Resources agreements, that far exceed what nations did in the past.
The Arabs are well aware of all these things, and they are aware that America has a long history of selling anything, and not having respect even for its own Legacy Business and Industry. These other nations do not sell their Legacy Nations and they do not sit idle and allow Foreign Nations to come in and buy up their Marquee Property and certainly never to buy up their Legacy Industries.
So... what people see on the surface has many many details beneath the surface. Arabs were smarter than American figured, when we stomped into Iraq, they made America pay, with the spike of Oil rishing from under and around $20 a barrel, and it spiked up to $147 a barrel, while we were in Iraq... When we toned down our roles in their region, then the cost of Oil fell back to where it would have been under normal time based inflation cost expense. Saudi Arabia was smart and did not need to slow or increase their spending, because they had made so much money and did not waste it, they could weather any turbulence during the cycle where natural gas challenged Oil.
We need to see more, think more and be more aware, and get over the delusion that American is some Angel on the Globe and realize that we have to become a diplomatic player, or we seal our own downfall even further.
China and Arab nations have Out Built us by 500% or greater in the past 40 yrs. We let bigotry and racist make us stupid... and all in trying to deny minorities, women and dire poor whites opportunity, we took down our own nations, all in the search for slaves on foreign soils. Something as Great as The Detroit Auto Industry was destroyed because on one simple thing. "Racism", the aim to ensure there was no economic uplift and party for minorities to equal that of white men. Then we did the same to the Steel Industry, and every other kind of Industry over many many decades. But, the last people to face and admit that truth will continue to be Republicans. But prior to 1964, America was still making its own Appliance, its TVs and Cars and a vast volume of the things we utilize in our daily lives. But after Civil Rights Passage, everything started to leave because people were adamant they were not going to allow to see and support minorities gaining economic viability and certainly not economic parity with white society, and they were not interested in Minorities become on par with Middle Class. As a result of such madness, we now no longer have a functioning middle class. It is now only a Upper Middle Class, the Wealthy, the Industrialist and then the Poor. There is no quality standard of "working society middle class"... there is only a moderate higher level of the Poor, and the dire poor.
There is a whole system that is behind what was conveyed in the Speech, and until these Arab nation see a decline in Racism in America, they are not going to Trust some Speech with some 100% devotion, because they see everyday in the news the expanding spread of racism again in American in the 21st Century. So talking to them about human rights, is like a joke to them, when they see and know the racist bigotry in American, they see a All White Male Administration, and they see an Administration of Right Winger Mentality Among the White Males that saturate the Administration.
These are nations that are very very tradition when it comes to women, they still have region that stone women for affairs and they separate boys and girls and men and women, and then they see a President with a white who has posed Nude, did Lesbian photo shoots and has no role and no place in the Administration, and has been pushed to the back burner for the Presidents Daughter to pretend to fill that role... These people are not crazy , they see all of this, and we can try and pretend they don't.. and its not their role to voice it, they only need to know they acknowledge it.
They also know, if the Arms deal was not on the table, they'd even be of concern as to what and how this might have gone down otherwise.
Let's stop underestimating people because they are of a different culture and live in a different land with difference concepts about how they see life.
Talking is fine, but now they will watch and see what and how that talk is followed up... Likely they are just waiting for Trump to Tweet something silly...
to see if he flips and flops again. Which we should all hope he does not.
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