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Crusades were by the Christians. Bush told the whole world that his God authorized violent attack on Iraq. The whole Christianity began with crucifixion and killing of an innocent man. There would have been no Christianity today without killing of that innocent man.
Crusades were 1/1000th the size of the Islamic expansion during the same period.
Btw, it was pagan Rome that killed Jesus. Jesus never killed anyone.
But, there is literally NOTHING that ISIS does today that MOHAMMED HIMSELF didn't do.
- War
- Murder
- Rape of children
- Terror
Your religion was born as a rip-off of Jesus' and Buddha's peace and love teachings. However, Mohammed gained very few followers with that message. It wasn't until he started to war and conquer that his religion grew. That's why if you were HONEST and actually knew about your OWN religion, you would admit that teh EARLY Koran is where you find the peaceful verses.... but those were ABROGATED by the LATER Koran, where the smite the infidels stuff comes from.
Garbage in, garbage out. The ramblings of one insane warlord in the 7th century has wrought so much misery on this planet. Imagine what amazing world we would live in if 1.5 billion people didnt suffer under the yoke of a religion that hasn't produced anything of worth in terms of science, medicine, technology or social progress in about 800 years!
Even the Americans know that 9/11 terrorists had Saudi Arab names. America is now going to have $270 billion trade with Saudis. Most of it will be arms that kill.
By the way (and you can have it confirmed by Trump), the latest official term for these people is "loser" terrorists rather than "Islamic" terrorists.
Is it your contention that "we" deliberately target citizens and children? If you see no difference than I suspect you also don't believe in concepts such as "manslaughter" vs. "first degree murder."
Mostly I think it's we really do not care. We know we are going to kill thousands and thousands of innocent women and children and really don't care.
Today on social media I see post after post asking for prayers for the people of the U.K. We bomb a Doctors Without Borders hospital killing even more innocent people and there is no call for prayers for them.
If someone had done that to a hospital here would we not demand a retaliation? So they do not fight back the same way we do with a massive military they do not have. As I pointed out, we did the same during the Revolutionary War. If we had to take on the British on their terms, we would have lost.
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What's your excuse, btw, for the fact that an infinitely larger number of terror attacks are committed across the MUSLIM world, against MUSLIMS?
They see those who will not fight back as the enemy also. We called them Loyalists. They were still being targeted even after the war ended.
This ... waiting for condemnations from the Muslim world for last night's atrocities.
Then open your eyes and unplug your ears. The Muslim Community condemns every single one of these. They don't report it on Breitbart or Fox. If you refuse to get a balanced feed of news (which can include right/center/left sources), then at least do some research before showing ignorance by posting such idiotic statements.
A search for "muslim condemnation of manchester" yields about 3,500,000 hits in .78 seconds.
Pretty amazing what you don't see if you don't look for it, huh?
Trump called terrorists losers.
Thinking POTUS, can POTUS, can stop terrorism will likely result in dissapointment.
15/19, 9/11 terrorists entered the US legally on Saudi passports. Three separate POTUS Admins have continued Saudi relations, despite this and their extreme positions on human rights.
The most recent arms deal makes Saudi Arabia the most powerful military in the Middle East.
What about the Muslims in the Middle East ? Did the Saudis and Iranians deploy more troops overnight to decimate ISIS ? Are all of the Middle Eastern imams renouncing the violence as contrary to what the Quran teaches ?
You need to understand Islam first before you can claim so about Islam.
Islam does not teach us violence against all non-believers or those who do not hold to it. A response is not the first act but response to someone else's action. Islam does not teach violence in response to peace.
If non-believers or non-Muslims wish to live in peace with me then Islam teaches me to live in peace with that non-believer or non-Muslim (the Qur'an 8:61).
[60.8] Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice.
[60.9] Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of (your) religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust.
Islam teaches friendship with peaceful people of any religion or of no religion. Violent response is response to violence from the others first. This is to stop the violence in the first instance. Islam does not teach initiating violence or else there would have been no non-believers living with Muslims anywhere in the world today.
Crusades were by the Christians. Bush told the whole world that his God authorized violent attack on Iraq. The whole Christianity began with crucifixion and killing of an innocent man. There would have been no Christianity today without killing of that innocent man.
Christians didn't kill that innocent man. People 2,000 years ago did.
The problem is people believe in ancient texts from ancient barbarians, and this is the 21st century.
These bombings will NEVER end. When will liberals get it thru their fat skulls that Muslims don't want Western freedoms. They hate us.
When will the war mongers get it thru their fat skulls that no one in the Middle East attacked us until we went over there?
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We are all effing doomed because liberals have their weird fantasy that everyone has to be treated fairly. No...sorry...but if you're throwing gays off the roof tops in your home country....while the whole town stands around watching and does NOTHING.....then these kinds of bombings are going to occur when these people move to the USA, England, France, etc.
We are all effing doomed because war mongers and their big government supporters have their weird fantasy that we should not respect the rights of the individual.
Christians didn't kill that innocent man. People 2,000 years ago did.
The problem is people believe in ancient texts from ancient barbarians, and this is the 21st century.
The president controls movements and can bring the troops home at any time. Our past presidents are Christians but as long as they dont invoke the name of Christ when we murder innocents, invade their country and desecrate their Holy Lands it's somehow okay? What ever happened to the Christian just war theory?
the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.
Your religion was born as a rip-off of Jesus' and Buddha's peace and love teachings. However, Mohammed gained very few followers with that message. It wasn't until he started to war and conquer that his religion grew.
Nonsense!
Muhammad's followers never attacked anyone first. They responded only after they were attacked and expelled from their homes in Mecca.
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That's why if you were HONEST and actually knew about your OWN religion, you would admit that teh EARLY Koran is where you find the peaceful verses.... but those were ABROGATED by the LATER Koran, where the smite the infidels stuff comes from.
This is where your ignorance about Islam and the Qur'an is exposed. No verse of the Qur'an is abrogated. Each verse is still relevant verse. Claim of abrogation is only by those who can't reconcile the verses of the Qur'an.
Smite the infidels did not begin until the infidels had begun to smite the Muslims. The very first killing between the infidels and Muslims was killing of a Muslim woman by the infidels.
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