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I will respond with the following: if the bible commands violence, and the Koran commands violence, than why are almost all of the terrorist attacks, by Muslims and not Christians?
Yes - this is the question I posed to you.
What is it really about? Is it really just about religion? Or are there other drivers? Such as the decimation of a region in war that has been ongoing off and on for decades? Or the lack of education (REALLY BIG factor) and resources? Or just simple things like the lack of leaders or structure in daily life? Really try to imagine the life of these people (all people in the region, not those that are in ISIS) in destitution...
We (western countries) are not innocent in all of this, unfortunately. The fact that there is oil that we want has, of course, been a big part of all of this.
It is a complete mess, and it upsets me. And now we have to deal with ISIS because they are taking their battles to us in the western world more and more...which then drives us back to the region (creating a vicious self-perpetuating cycle).
I have no answers to these problems, by the way. No good answers, that is. Hussein was a horrible person in many ways - but he at least kept the country ordered. Of course we don't re-instate a dictator again, but we must seriously think of how to make this region sustainable again.
side note: there have been plenty examples of non-Muslim (e.g. Christian) terrorism in the past.
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I will respond with the following: if the bible commands violence, and the Koran commands violence, than why are almost all of the terrorist attacks, by Muslims and not Christians?
The Enlightenment has not reached much of the Muslim world.
I will respond with the following: if the bible commands violence, and the Koran commands violence, than why are almost all of the terrorist attacks, by Muslims and not Christians?
I will take a stab at that from a Christian. I think Christians are less inclined to violence in the name of Christ today because we predominantly live in Democratic societies that openly allows criticisms and bemoaning of Christian crimes. Even open mockery of my faith have made openly Christian debate and self evaluation more common. Also the New Testament makes it clear that killing in the name of God is wrong in the woman cought in adultery.
It is such a meaningless term and Trump has used it on so many people, that there is a greatest hits list. A so-called insult from a so-called president. The 'evil doers' in the world are laughing at him.
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We should be trying to understand what makes Islamic terrorist driven to do the things that they do. It isn't necesarilly religious in nature. Although that might be the justification...why do we see more Muslim terrorists than other forms of terror? Hint: maybe we aren't so innocent here. Maybe we should get the hell out of their region...
You are either a Muslim or a Dhimmi liberal who knows nothing beyond trite platitudes.
Is ISIS raping Yazidis women in Raqqa because of American foreign policy? Are Aby Sayyaf rebels waging war is Phillippines because of American foreign policy? Is the Jihad in Kashmir because of American foreign policy? Is Boko Haram kidnapping Chibok girls in Nigeria because of Satan America? Are Iran and Saudia fighting proxy wars in Yemen, Syria and Iraq because of you lot?
You are either a Muslim or a Dhimmi liberal who knows nothing beyond trite platitudes.
Is ISIS raping Yazidis women in Raqqa because of American foreign policy? Are Aby Sayyaf rebels waging war is Phillippines because of American foreign policy? Is the Jihad in Kashmir because of American foreign policy? Is Boko Haram kidnapping Chibok girls in Nigeria because of Satan America? Are Iran and Saudia fighting proxy wars in Yemen, Syria and Iraq because of you lot?
What explains the chaos that is the Middle East? And where was that chaos before the last ~20-30 years?
I think we can all agree that ISIS is terrible and needs to be destroyed (I'm totally on that team, buddy) - but that is a completely separate topic. Why do Muslim terrorists exist? Why is the region in such disarray? Seriously consider that without jumping to your typical talking points.
Also, I think you can probably write a reply without some silly name calling. I'm assuming you're an adult, yes?
Trump rightfully called Islamic terrorists as " Losers ''. I agree with that. They are often just that seeking to use Religion as a means to feel important.
I think saying loosers was a good thing too.
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I disagree. LOSER is too nice of a name for 'em. They are terrorists, killers, murderers... you name it.
They are that, fitzy.
But Trump made a good point during his words on this attack.
He said they want us to call them monsters, they like that, so instead I am going to call them loosers.
By calling these terrorist beasts "losers" he is essentially equating them with Rosie O'Donnell and other celebrities and opponents he has called losers. He has used the word "loser" so often that it has lost any and all meaning. That is a sad truth.
Pretty much the same as "racists".
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