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Old 05-23-2017, 01:45 PM
 
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Homelessness and overall poverty keeps increasing. Liberals say give the politicians more money and they'll fix it. Yet we already transfer $7 trillion from the working class to the politicians and the result I always see is a larger welfare class. Ok, you want to elect Bernie Sanders and have him take 99% of Bill Gates's money. Then what? Give it to bums to spend on cigarettes and booze? Give to high school grads to get useless college degrees? Give it to worthless solar panel companies like Solyndra? What kind of stupid plan is that? Liberals are trying to create a real Atlas Shrugged situation where all clowns in D.C. take the producing class's money and society collapses due to resource misallocation.
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Old 05-23-2017, 01:46 PM
 
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Time to force people at gunpoint to give money to others again?
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Old 05-23-2017, 01:48 PM
 
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In the War on Poverty, poverty is the clear victor. The taxpayer has been routed.
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Old 05-23-2017, 01:49 PM
 
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There will always be people on the bottom - poverty is relative.
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Old 05-23-2017, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Dixie
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There will always be people on the bottom - poverty is relative.
Poverty is relative especially when some of those claiming poverty have the latest Iphones, high-speed internet service, and a state of the art flat-screen TV.
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Old 05-23-2017, 01:56 PM
 
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This thread makes me wonder - are liberals anti-capitalists?

I ask because in capitalism there are winners and losers. In a capitalistic society you would expect the ranks of both to increase as the population increases. Short-circuiting that by saying government should make sure there are no losers, well, that's socialism, right?
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Old 05-23-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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This thread makes me wonder - are liberals anti-capitalists?

I ask because in capitalism there are winners and losers. In a capitalistic society you would expect the ranks of both to increase as the population increases. Short-circuiting that by saying government should make sure there are no losers, well, that's socialism, right?
The United States has always had a mixed economy, before the economic terms were even coined.
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Old 05-23-2017, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Houston
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This thread makes me wonder - are liberals anti-capitalists?

I ask because in capitalism there are winners and losers. In a capitalistic society you would expect the ranks of both to increase as the population increases. Short-circuiting that by saying government should make sure there are no losers, well, that's socialism, right?
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.---- Winston Churchill.
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Old 05-23-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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Ok, but my impression is that liberals are trying to take capitalism out of the mix and convert completely over to socialism. These days it's almost like capitalism is a dirty word, while socialism is very politically correct.

Am I way off base?
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Old 05-23-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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It doesn't help the argument when the O.P. is wholly incorrect.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm
● How much U.S. currency is in circulation?

● There was approximately $1.5 trillion in circulation as of February 22, 2017, of which $1.47 trillion was in Federal Reserve notes.

U.S. Population (2017) : 326,474,013
>>> $4,502.65 per capita <<<

Federal Budget (2017): $3.65 Trillion
<<<$11,180.06 per capita >>>
... PLUS A DEFICIT ...

Now exactly WHERE are 7 trillion dollar bills being taxed each year?
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