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Old 05-24-2017, 12:24 AM
 
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Do you picture a scenario when FBI and special prosecutor come to Congress with evidence of major White House wrongdoings, whether it's collusion, obstruction, dirty money, whatever and repubs see it and do absolutely nothing? What's the remedy then? Obviously they can be voted out in 2018, but is that it? Can they be held criminally or legally liable later for being complicit in a sense that they allowed lawlessness to reign?
I don't think it's far fetched, given how protective they've been of Trump so far. They are clearly not interested in any investigations.

 
Old 05-24-2017, 12:31 AM
 
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Only if

1) his actions are a continued hindrance to legislation getting passed or...

2) His approval ratings get drastically low.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 12:32 AM
 
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Only if

1) his actions are a continued hindrance to legislation getting passed or...

2) His approval ratings get drastically low.
I can see number 1. I don't see number 2. There will be many people who will support him even if he shot someone in the middle of Times Sq.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 12:34 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Doubtful. In the face of all the new accusations, most conservatives are doubling down in their support for Trump. They are now going as far as to say there isn't anything wrong or illegal even if there was collusion. I'm not saying there was because we need to wait for the evidence, but since when has the party that brands itself as the party of patriotism become the party that says its okay for a candidate to seek help from a hostile foreign power to win an election? It's absolutely mind blowing what we are seeing in this country today.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 12:34 AM
 
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They have already proven they will not. They will not even put their own constituents before "the party". Witness the disembowlement of ACA. Trump supporters wanted health care, Trump promised great health care for everybody. The exact opposite was passed by the GOP.

This is the "will of the people"? The promise was not to repeal Obamacare, it was to repeal Obamacare and replace it with "something better".
Is that what has been provided?
 
Old 05-24-2017, 12:36 AM
 
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Doubtful. In the face of all the new accusations, most conservatives are doubling down in their support for Trump. They are now going as far as to say there isn't anything wrong or illegal even if there was collusion. I'm not saying there was because we need to wait for the evidence, but since when has the party that brands itself as the party of patriotism become the party that says its okay for a candidate to seek help from a hostile foreign power to win an election? It's absolutely mind blowing what we are seeing in this country today.
i heard that on the news, CNN at that! They saying it's not necessarily illegal. Almost unbelievable. I feel like they warming up the public for when collusion is proven, "don't overreact, its not such a big deal."
 
Old 05-24-2017, 12:43 AM
 
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Don't forget the independent power that federal courts have. Lawsuits challenging the results of an election that has been proved to be rigged, can't be blocked by either a president or congress. If an appeal of a ruling that nullified the election reached the Supreme Court, then Justice Gorsuch would have to be recused from the vote, as his appointment would also be nullified if the election results were thrown out.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 12:52 AM
 
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Don't forget the independent power that federal courts have. Lawsuits challenging the results of an election that has been proved to be rigged, can't be blocked by either a president or congress. If an appeal of a ruling that nullified the election reached the Supreme Court, then Justice Gorsuch would have to be recused from the vote, as his appointment would also be nullified if the election results were thrown out.
how are you going to prove the election results were rigged in the first place? remember that you cannot hack the voting machines because they are NOT online, so you cant rig the vote that way. you can stuff the ballot box, and you might get away with it in local elections, not at the state level though.

the other problem you have is that ALL the election results have already been certified by the various states, so the time to contest the election is long since over with.

nice try but a failure,

as to republicans putting country over party, perhaps they will perhaps not. democrats are the same way though, they also generally put party over country.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 01:05 AM
 
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how are you going to prove the election results were rigged in the first place? remember that you cannot hack the voting machines because they are NOT online, so you cant rig the vote that way. you can stuff the ballot box, and you might get away with it in local elections, not at the state level though.

the other problem you have is that ALL the election results have already been certified by the various states, so the time to contest the election is long since over with.

nice try but a failure,

as to republicans putting country over party, perhaps they will perhaps not. democrats are the same way though, they also generally put party over country.
its safe to say the level of republican partisanship and bs apologism is beyond anything normal
 
Old 05-24-2017, 01:09 AM
 
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its safe to say the level of republican partisanship and bs apologism is beyond anything normal
really? did you live through the bush years? are you not living now and seeing what is going on? democrats are in full shill mode and are trying to bring down a sitting president. granted republicans are no better either. both sides need to stop the garbage.
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