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In our respective project roles, we would normally have interacted to some degree. I could not and would not have dealt with no reaction whatsoever to a guy dressed as such any more than had another appeared dressed as a clown or appeared in blackface. I was raised to recognize the difference between males and females and act accordingly and professionally to each. When someone presents themselves as a caricature of something they obviously are not, it's difficult to deal professionally or take them seriously, particularly when they expect to be recognized as that which they are not. If a coworker prowls the office on all fours and occasionally barks, should I say "Good dog!" and act as though all is normal?
No, this was a guy. Period. I made private inquiries with our security department and found his true name and history despite that he had been introduced as "Belinda" and was expecting to be treated and addressed as a female. A comment from that security officer was that "No one wants to be the first called to HR over this, so everyone is going along with it." I chose to leave as that program had pretty much jumped the shark by that time anyhow and was sinking.
Isn't acting towards another properly by what they truly are being civilized? See the dog example above.
The people in security who disclosed that information to you should have been fired.
In our respective project roles, we would normally have interacted to some degree. I could not and would not have dealt with no reaction whatsoever to a guy dressed as such any more than had another appeared dressed as a clown or appeared in blackface. I was raised to recognize the difference between males and females and act accordingly and professionally to each. When someone presents themselves as a caricature of something they obviously are not, it's difficult to deal professionally or take them seriously, particularly when they expect to be recognized as that which they are not. If a coworker prowls the office on all fours and occasionally barks, should I say "Good dog!" and act as though all is normal?
No, this was a guy. Period. I made private inquiries with our security department and found his true name and history despite that he had been introduced as "Belinda" and was expecting to be treated and addressed as a female. A comment from that security officer was that "No one wants to be the first called to HR over this, so everyone is going along with it." I chose to leave as that program had pretty much jumped the shark by that time anyhow and was sinking.
Isn't acting towards another properly by what they truly are being civilized? See the dog example above.
You realize that you just compared being a woman to being a dog, in a way?
You shouldn't be treating people at work differently based on gender anyway. Professional behavior is professional behavior.
The only thing you had to do was respect his decision to change his name to Belinda. It really shouldn't have been that big of a deal. Do you not wonder why it bothered you so much?
Recently a doctor in Detroit has been charged with Female Genital Mutilation. I'm wondering why it is a crime to cut off part of skin, but not a crime to cut of a ________ and turn it into a ________ or vice-versa? Maybe some liberal out there could explain this to me?
What part of mutilation are you not grasping, exactly?
You shouldn't be treating people at work differently based on gender anyway. Professional behavior is professional behavior.
And professional behavior includes proper appearance. Just as I would not show up at work in blackface, a Nazi stormtrooper uniform, or dressed as Darth Vader, I expect others to dress properly as well. An obvious man in a wig, dress and makeup is inappropriate. If as Vader I point to someone, must they clutch their throat and pretend to choke?
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Do you not wonder why it bothered you so much?
Uhm, how about because I was raised to recognize what is real and what is not? If I dress as Santa Claus and demand coworkers sit on my lap and tell me if they've been naughty or nice, should I expect no repercussions? Or that no one will challenge my desires to do so and have them go along with it?
And professional behavior includes proper appearance. Just as I would not show up at work in blackface, a Nazi stormtrooper uniform, or dressed as Darth Vader, I expect others to dress properly as well. An obvious man in a wig, dress and makeup is inappropriate. If as Vader I point to someone, must they clutch their throat and pretend to choke?
Uhm, how about because I was raised to recognize what is real and what is not? If I dress as Santa Claus and demand coworkers sit on my lap and tell me if they've been naughty or nice, should I expect no repercussions? Or that no one will challenge my desires to do so and have them go along with it?
I have nothing further to say to you and your willfully ignorant comments. Welcome to ignore.
And professional behavior includes proper appearance. Just as I would not show up at work in blackface, a Nazi stormtrooper uniform, or dressed as Darth Vader, I expect others to dress properly as well. An obvious man in a wig, dress and makeup is inappropriate. If as Vader I point to someone, must they clutch their throat and pretend to choke?
Uhm, how about because I was raised to recognize what is real and what is not? If I dress as Santa Claus and demand coworkers sit on my lap and tell me if they've been naughty or nice, should I expect no repercussions? Or that no one will challenge my desires to do so and have them go along with it?
But, you weren't required to alter your behavior at all just because he wore clothes you didn't like. That's really all it comes down to. The comparisons to pretending that you are being choked by Darth Vader or petting a dog are stupid because you were not being asked to do anything at all except to mind your own business.
But, you weren't required to alter your behavior at all just because he wore clothes you didn't like. That's really all it comes down to. The comparisons to pretending that you are being choked by Darth Vader or petting a dog are stupid because you were not being asked to do anything at all except to mind your own business.
I, along with everyone else, was expected to address a man in drag by a female-only name, pronouns and protocol, and the women were expected to share bathroom facilities with him despite their discomfort at doing so. If I expected to be addressed as Lord Vader in meetings and deferred to, what would be different?
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