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Old 05-31-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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Uh, no. The "mess we have today" is because there is a bumbling, inept, anti-social, lying, unfit, immature, man child leading this country right now. All of this s*** began on 1/20 and is getting worse by the day because he simply has no idea what the Hell he is doing and does not have the capacity to realize it.

THAT is the reality of the situation, whether you wish to see it or not.
Ouch...someone had a hot, steaming bowl of liberal hysteria for breakfast this morning. So waddya think about CrowdStrike? You even read the story? You see where the roots of the Russian fairy tale originated?

I know, I know...it's all Trump's fault.
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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It's interesting how conservative media and internet posters move in lockstep. Last week, it was all about Seth Rich in a desperate effort to undermine the findings of 17 U.S. intelligence agencies. This week, it's Crowdstrike. Will next week be Elvis?
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:43 AM
 
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It's interesting how conservative media and internet posters move in lockstep. Last week, it was all about Seth Rich in a desperate effort to undermine the findings of 17 U.S. intelligence agencies. This week, it's Crowdstrike. Will next week be Elvis?
Actually CrowdStrike has been quietly bubbling away in the news for several months now. It just doesn't show up on CNN or MSNBC so a lot of you miss it.
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Actually CrowdStrike has been quietly bubbling away in the news for several months now. It just doesn't show up on CNN or MSNBC so a lot of you miss it.
The same way I've been missing everything on Seth Rich.
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Old 05-31-2017, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Well, Crowdstrike makes a claim that the Russians hack the DNC emails.

Within 24-48 hours tech, and security experts thoroughly debunk the ridiculous claim.

The DNC refuses to allow the FBI to examine their servers.

Crowdstrike refuses to testify before congress when asked.

Crowdstrike has to retract a prior claim about Russian hacking after it is revealed that the "evidence" they used was proven false.


Honestly, why would anyone believe the Russian hacking claims?
If you care to read Crowdstrike's account of the entire incident, here it is:

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bea...nal-committee/

If a reader understands how to read code, and understands the layered sophistication of all the modern computer operating systems, all the evidence of the hacking can be followed back to the sources using the code provided in the article.

In effect, the hacking measures and the countermeasures against it are all now on public view. So whether or not the claim was ridiculous or true can be weighed by anyone who can read computer coding.

The article also includes their claim that the same group of hackers had been at it for some time before the election. Apparently, Cloudstrike decided to lay it all out in public instead of keeping it secret; since the hackers have abandoned it all now, and it's all in the past for both the hackers and Cloudstrike, putting it out to the public makes a future attempt at using the same hack impossible to do.

I suggest anyone who has opinions on this one way or the other should read the article. It's a dense and convoluted read, but it's also transparent.
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Old 05-31-2017, 10:57 AM
 
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Isn't this all a moot point since Trump himself admitted that Russia hacked the DNC after receiving classified briefings from the USIC?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.91da6d128f60

Trump's supporters are waging a battle he has all but given up on.
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Old 05-31-2017, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Actually CrowdStrike has been quietly bubbling away in the news for several months now. It just doesn't show up on CNN or MSNBC so a lot of you miss it.
The world of cyber espionage is just the same as espionage was before computers came along. There are governmental secrets and industrial secrets.

The government has agencies that are devoted to espionage and counter-espionage, but private industry has no dedicated agencies of its own, so it must rely on a private espionage company to proved protection for them. Crowdstrike is only one of many that provide this service.

Both need protection equally.
Sometimes one type of secret crosses the boundaries between government and industry.

For both, knowing what was stolen or discovered, is equally important, especially when it comes to computer technology.
The government uses the same operating systems that industry uses, along with the rest of us, in or out of industry or government.

These same operating systems are also used all around the world by other governments, other industries, and other individuals. Back in the past, every computer could not pass information to another without some means of physical transmission; a reel of tape, stacks of paper documents, or whatever. But nowadays, every computer can transmit and receive information instantly with the ease of using one finger to accomplish it in the fraction of a second.

Counter-espionage is several things; it's an effort to discover if a secret has been broached, how it was broached, and how to fix the breach.
Another part of the endeavor is to counter the breach with another breach, using the attack as a stronger counter-attack. Or, instead of counter-attacking, to build a defense so strong that it cannot be breached by any future attempt.

Much is psychological. Every surprise attack is also a possible disaster as much as a possible victory. The greatest weakness of a plan that depends on surprise is surprise itself. Its never sure if the attackers' confidence will be greater than the defender's resistance.

Defeating an opponent is always as much a matter of the mind as of the body.

In war, defeat and victory boils down to lives.

In industry, it boils down to livelihoods.

The loss of either can create immense change, good or bad.

Information is everything. That's why cyber war is now being waged all over the world.

Crowdstrike is just like the Pinkerton Detective Agency once was, or Blackwater is - private security for hire.
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Old 05-31-2017, 11:59 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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I'm not trying time hijack this thread, because CrowdStrike's role in the Russian fairy tale is important. But here goes...Conservatives don't like Trump. Conservative web sites don't like Trump. Conservative writers are forever bashing Trump. They supported him reluctantly because it meant beating Hillary and they got Gorsuch. Democrats and conservatives have something in common, they'd both love to see Trump gone.
Liberals are democrats and conservatives are republicans. And from May 22-28 2017 87% of republicans approved of Donald Trump.
Presidential Approval Ratings -- Donald Trump | Gallup

And those conservative writers were not bashing Trump, rather they were speaking about REALITY. And reality is Trumps own actions caused him to get investigated.

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Back to the evil bastards at CrowdStrike...
"CrowdStrike, Inc. is an American cybersecurity technology company (that) provides endpoint security, threat intelligence, and incident response services to customers in more than 170 countries."

"The company gained recognition for... the outing of state-sponsored Chinese group, Putter Panda, linked to China's spying on US defense and European satellite and aerospace industries."

"In May 2014, supported by CrowdStrike’s reports, the US Department of Justice charged five Chinese military hackers for economic cyber espionage against US corporations."

"The firm is known for uncovering the activities of Energetic Bear, an adversary group with a nexus to the Russian Federation that conducts intelligence operations against a variety of global victims with a primary focus on the energy sector."

"Following the very public Sony Pictures hack, CrowdStrike produced attribution to the government of North Korea within 48 hours and demonstrated how the attack was carried out step-by-step."

"In 2014, CrowdStrike was instrumental in identifying members of PLA Unit 61486 as the perpetrators of a number of cyberattacks on U.S. infrastructure."

ex.ex.

"According to the company, its customers include three of the 10 largest global companies by revenue, five of the 10 largest financial institutions, three of the top 10 health care providers, and three of the top 10 energy companies."

CrowdStrike provides services to customers in more than 170 countries, provides services to governments, and provides services to many large corporations (and those corporations will have a mix of both liberal and conservative CEO's.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrowdStrike


CrowdStrike is one of the worlds largest cybersecurity companies. In 2015 customers in the cybersecurity market spent $22 billion dollars, and sales have grown by $1 billion for three straight years.

CrowdStrike has -0- financial incentive to be involved in any conspiracy with the democrat party. Rather CrowdStrike has a financial incentive to grab as much of the $22 billion dollar cybersecurity market as they can (and being involved and caught in a conspiracy with democrats would severely tarnish their reputation with the large corporations they do so much business with.)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasb.../#6855fb04303f
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Old 05-31-2017, 12:17 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Well, Crowdstrike makes a claim that the Russians hack the DNC emails.

[b]Within 24-48 hours tech, and security experts thoroughly debunk the ridiculous claim.
As another poster said, Donald Trump himself has publicly admitted "that Russia was responsible for hacking the Democratic Party during last year’s election."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.b5ce5c795d07

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The DNC refuses to allow the FBI to examine their servers.
This is common practice when a organization is hacked. Standard procedure is a outside security company investigates the hack and the security company then gives copies of the information they obtained to law enforcement.

"That division of labor saves time, but it also protects companies from what could potentially be seen as an invasion of privacy. Turning over a company’s entire network to a law enforcement agency can be an awkward proposition, particularly before the nature of the compromise is clear."

https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/5/14...rensics-russia
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Old 05-31-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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Crowdstrike a DNC friendly company, investigated the hack of their servers and determined it was the Russians. 100 million in funding immediately poured into the company, currently it is valued at more than a billion dollars.

All good and well, but there is this tweet

https://twitter.com/TruthinGov2016/s...42204418732032

see New questions over claim Russia hacked the election | Daily Mail Online for a tabloid news story.

From the story above -

If Crowdstrike collected nearly a billion dollars on anti-Trump sentiment, fine and good, but it should be cooperating with the investigation of the alleged Russian hacks. If it recants the claim Russia hacked the DNC, then there is nothing anywhere even from a DNC friendly company and DNC supporters were bamboozled out of nearly a billion dollars by con artists posing as geeks.

Time will tell.
They went by a Fireeye report on APT28 and APT29 that intentionally excluded all other users of the software suites besides Russian. The Crowdstrike analysis also excluded originating IP addresses that were non-Russian.
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