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Old 05-31-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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Uh-oh.

Now you're gonna have to point out how much the new standards have reduced global warming.
And you can't do that.
Ah. So the usual trap nonsense. Sorry to the OP, I have no interest in that childish game.
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Old 05-31-2017, 02:17 PM
 
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Even those who are the most serious about tackling climate change know that existing damage is very difficult to reverse. The only thing that can be done is to minimize further damage caused by humans.
The climate always changes.

But feel free to throw your money at it, not mine.
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Old 05-31-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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Ah. So the usual trap nonsense. Sorry to the OP, I have no interest in that childish game.
If you consider these questions to be a trap, then what basis do you have criticize to Trump for abstaining from unproven regulations and agreements? A wish and a fantasy? Or pure partisan griping with literally nothing to substantiate your position?
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Old 05-31-2017, 02:38 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Name Even a Single Thing Barack Obama Did that Reduced Global Warming.
Held back four out of five farts?
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Old 05-31-2017, 02:40 PM
 
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If you consider these questions to be a trap, then what basis do you have criticize to Trump for abstaining from unproven regulations and agreements? A wish and a fantasy? Or pure partisan griping with literally nothing to substantiate your position?
Bah blah blah. Still a trap. I refuse to play your childish game you arent here for a discussion, you're here to argue some authoritarian nonsense that says people cannot question the president. IE lets be North Korea.

No.
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Old 05-31-2017, 02:42 PM
 
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The OP wants proof that a US action in the past 8 years had an immediately and measurable impact on global warming trends.

Clay banger - do you believe that measurable global warming is happening? If not then what's the point of this thread?
Even if measurable global warming "is happening," you folks have literally zero evidence that the actions taken by Barack Obama will do anything at all to change that circumstance. In the absence of any evidence, you are left wishing on a star. Funny how you folks assert that 8 years is not enough time to see any measurable change, but you're not open to considering that in 100 years there may be a natural course correction by the earth through its normal cycles. It's all or nothing with you folks. And that's why Trump is doing what he's doing.
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Old 05-31-2017, 02:43 PM
 
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Bah blah blah. Still a trap. I refuse to play your childish game you arent here for a discussion, you're here to argue some authoritarian nonsense that says people cannot question the president. IE lets be North Korea.

No.
No, the trap is that you have set yourself up to believe something that you literally cannot prove. The only question I have for you at this point is: "When did you start putting your faith in government without requiring an ounce of proof that government can actually enact change on a 4.5 billion year old planet?"
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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If you consider these questions to be a trap, then what basis do you have criticize to Trump for abstaining from unproven regulations and agreements? A wish and a fantasy? Or pure partisan griping with literally nothing to substantiate your position?
What basis do you have for attempting to lay the trap?

The Paris Accord is the first world-wide agreement by all the nations big enough to make a difference in global warming. One nation alone cannot change anything, as the forces of nature are simply too great.

None of the proposals to try to slow warming will work quickly. And none as yet have been applied by all the nations who signed the Paris accord at the same time.

That's the only way anyone will ever know what might slow it down or not. What the US does alone is only a small part of it. The accord itself took far longer than any of the scientists who first warned us thought it would, and the United States isn't the only nation where the issue was argued; it was just the biggest.

If you don't believe it, that's OK- you'll be dead before the worst comes.

Your grandkids will curse your memory, but you won't care by then.
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:35 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Liberals: Name Even a Single Thing Barack Obama Did that Reduced Global Warming.

No, not action he took that is **supposed* to work one day...that **may** be good for the earth at some future point.....but actual, tangible, quantifiable proof that Barack Obama positively impacted our climate through his actions.

If you can't do that, then you have no business criticizing President Trump for reneging on agreements, rules, regulations, etc, that have no proven track record. Speculation is not good government, and crossing your fingers and wishing on a fantasy is not a good reason to admire Barack Obama's track record on the environment.
He expelled a lot of hot air, limiting the quantity for future donation to the sound waves and atmosphere.
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Old 05-31-2017, 11:41 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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Solyndra...it lightened the wallets of the taxpayers, so the reduced weight of the occupants of cars meant their cars got better gas mileage. See!!!...it was a SUCCESS!!!

Fast and Furious...put guns in the hands of drug dealers so they could kill each other, as well as our federal agents, thereby reducing the population resulting in fewer people leaving a carbon footprint...ANOTHER SUCCESS!!!

IRS Scandal...Resulted in shutdowns of conservative owned charities, thereby reducing energy usage of those companies...SUCCESS!!!

Installed Hillary as SOS. She bleachbitted 30k emails thus reducing the additional manpower and working hrs using electricity to review them. ...ANOTHER SUCCESS!!!

Increased racial division resulting in BLM, which resulted in black people marching, walking instead of sitting around listening to gangsta rap, using electricity. Increased the number of cop killings, reducing the amount of carbon footprint by cops...MORE SUCCESS.

Iran deal...Gave them millions so they can reduce their reliance on traditional weaponry, and instead hide their nuclear program from us, reducing carbon emissions....SUCCESS!

Traded 5 terrorists in Guantanamo for 1 deserter. Resulted in less people to care for in Guantanamo, thereby redusing energy usage. And once the terrorists kill off more people, the carbon footprint will be reduced further....BIG SUCCESS since the terrorists have already returned to their terrorist activity!!
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