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Old 06-05-2017, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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It's only partially the truth though. There are many who are on disability that could work........if the work was there that paid more than minimum.

The government approves these claims to get people off the unemployment roles as high unemployment tends to hurt at election time.

So we condemn those on disability when in the big picture the problem is the screwed up economy.
Gladhands made that point. Minimum wages need to be higher than what one can earn milking out Disability if we are ever to even begin breaking the cycle of program abuse.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:50 AM
 
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I believe the point of this thread was to highlight that Trump's health care policies will have a damaging effect on the very people who voted for him.

The conversation should be about why that is happening and why/how they are still supporting him.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:51 AM
 
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Syria, Libya, Yemen.

You still can not do what you expect others to do.
please explain to me where Obama campaigned on those issues?
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:52 AM
 
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People whose children voluntarily joined the military during two wars, thought that by voting for Obama the wars would magically end abruptly?

We pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan on timetables agreed upon by GW, the Pentagon and Iraqi/Afghani leadership.


Did I miss your point somehow?
We never left either. Again, my point proven.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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People whose children voluntarily joined the military during two wars, thought that by voting for Obama the wars would magically end abruptly?

We pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan on timetables agreed upon by GW, the Pentagon and Iraqi/Afghani leadership.


Did I miss your point somehow?
ty for taking up this point- didn't have the energy- was focused on figuring out how it involves people on disability voting for Trump....
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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It's only partially the truth though. There are many who are on disability that could work........if the work was there that paid more than minimum.

The government approves these claims to get people off the unemployment roles as high unemployment tends to hurt at election time.

So we condemn those on disability when in the big picture the problem is the screwed up economy.
Not even close to the point. The economy could be going great and people in rural areas making $75K annually and health care costs would still be huge problem. Ignore it all you want.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:54 AM
 
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I believe the point of this thread was to highlight that Trump's health care policies will have a damaging effect on the very people who voted for him.

The conversation should be about why that is happening and why/how they are still supporting him.
Thread has already devolved into a bunch of verbal nonsense to deflect away from OP's point. As usual, somehow it's Obama's fault.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:58 AM
 
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We never left either. Again, my point proven.
Uh-huh.

We are no longer in an active military role in Iraq or Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/u...oops.html?_r=0

Does it bother you that under Trump they may be sending more troops to train and advise?

Rather we just totally yanked the plug and let the entire situation devolve?

"WASHINGTON — The commander of the American-led international military force in Afghanistan, warning that the United States and its NATO allies are facing a “stalemate,” told Congress on Thursday that he needed a few thousand additional troops to more effectively train and advise Afghan soldiers."

"The international force that is helping the Afghans currently has 13,300 troops, 8,400 of whom are American."
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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please explain to me where Obama campaigned on those issues?
I've made my point....again.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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Thread has already devolved into a bunch of verbal nonsense to deflect away from OP's point. As usual, somehow it's Obama's fault.

You are correct. By setting the record straight I have added to that diversion, unfortunately.
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