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Old 06-06-2017, 09:22 AM
 
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New Travel Ban coming....
Travel ban, to and from all nations, that oppress women and kill gays.
Well, then I guess nobody will be traveling anywhere.
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Old 06-06-2017, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Are the lefties and pretend independents here really dismissing this out of hand without even reading what she's got to say?

She and Lisa Daftari have been saying sharia law is being practiced here for years. We only hear about the honor killings and excessive punishments when someone reports them to the police and they make the news. Genital mutilation wasn't limited to those we recently read about.

Brigitte Gabriel is saying this needs to be addressed and is asking why feminists have remained silent about the rights of women.

And none of the lefties and pretend independents think this is an important discussion to have?
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Old 06-06-2017, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Are the lefties and pretend independents here really dismissing this out of hand without even reading what she's got to say?

She and Lisa Daftari have been saying sharia law is being practiced here for years. We only hear about the honor killings and excessive punishments when someone reports them to the police and they make the news. Genital mutilation wasn't limited to those we recently read about.

Brigitte Gabriel is saying this needs to be addressed and is asking why feminists have remained silent about the rights of women.

And none of the lefties and pretend independents think this is an important discussion to have?
Because she's taking a larger issue (essentially domestic violence) and narrowing it down to target domestic violence carried out specifically in the name of a single religion. It's a drop in the overall bucket of violence against women in the U.S. (and frankly, beyond). "Feminists" advocate for the rights of women and against domestic violence on a daily basis. In fact, most Americans do. But targeting a minuscule example of it (the biggest advocate on this thread could literally name one town where it happens- of course with no evidence to back it up) is asinine. People are fighting for ALL women's rights, every day (remember the marches after the inauguration which drew bigger crowds than the inauguration itself?), so what makes you think they're ignoring this small segment of it? It all falls into the same category. Any violence or oppression against women is wrong- not going to a anti-sharia rally doesn't mean anyone's ignoring the problem. It's just that it's a microscopic component of a bigger problem; and for many people, it's an excuse to justify their anti-islamic sentiment.
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Old 06-06-2017, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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They do have Sharia in Dearborn MI.
Prove it.

City in Michigan First to Fully Implement Sharia Law
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Old 06-06-2017, 10:23 AM
 
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Because she's taking a larger issue (essentially domestic violence) and narrowing it down to target domestic violence carried out specifically in the name of a single religion. It's a drop in the overall bucket of violence against women in the U.S. (and frankly, beyond). "Feminists" advocate for the rights of women and against domestic violence on a daily basis. In fact, most Americans do. But targeting a minuscule example of it (the biggest advocate on this thread could literally name one town where it happens- of course with no evidence to back it up) is asinine. People are fighting for ALL women's rights, every day (remember the marches after the inauguration which drew bigger crowds than the inauguration itself?), so what makes you think they're ignoring this small segment of it? It all falls into the same category. Any violence or oppression against women is wrong- not going to a anti-sharia rally doesn't mean anyone's ignoring the problem. It's just that it's a microscopic component of a bigger problem; and for many people, it's an excuse to justify their anti-islamic sentiment.
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Are the lefties and pretend independents here really dismissing this out of hand without even reading what she's got to say?

She and Lisa Daftari have been saying sharia law is being practiced here for years. We only hear about the honor killings and excessive punishments when someone reports them to the police and they make the news. Genital mutilation wasn't limited to those we recently read about.

Brigitte Gabriel is saying this needs to be addressed and is asking why feminists have remained silent about the rights of women.

And none of the lefties and pretend independents think this is an important discussion to have?
Violence against women is an age old problem, and it spans all religions and cultures. And feminists have been at the forefront of that battle for women's rights, which includes every woman who is a victim of domestic violence, whether her abuser is a white Christian wife beater (and there are plenty of those in this country--when will the rally against them be held???) or a Muslim wife beater. Nowhere will you ever hear any feminist say, we want to protect all women from domestic violence--EXCEPT MUSLIM WOMEN.

The OP doesn't care about any of that, though, because he has an agenda. One that is easy to see in every single thread he starts.
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Old 06-06-2017, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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It's literally not even remotely a threat here. It's not even a big threat to existence in many countries witha much larger Muslim population . There will always be some lone wolf terror attacks here, but Sharia law is a non-factor in day to day life for most Americans. If you want to march against a threat there are a litany of medical conditions that pose more of a threat to Americans. Lightning strikes, herds of cattle, mosquitoes, ticks, etc. are all infinitely more threatening to Americans than Sharia law. Obviously it's a terrible ideology, but it's about as close to becoming the law of the land here as Spaghetti Monster worship.

Tell that to the girls in Minneapolis that had their genitals mutilated by a so called doctor.


Sharia is not going to take over our nation anytime soon but are we that far away from finding the aftermath of a stoning, honor killing or any other barbaric ritual that is viewed as a "right" in any predominantly muslim neighborhood?

I wonder how the feminists feel about women being treated like property or how the LGBT community will respond if one of their own is murdered for being different.


These marches are all about bring awareness to a perceived threat or concern. I'm sure there will be many who see this as somehow being racist, an attack on islam or they will label it with an "ISM" but the marchers believe sharia is a threat to humanity and the equality for all that America stands for.
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Old 06-06-2017, 10:40 AM
 
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Tell that to the girls in Minneapolis that had their genitals mutilated by a so called doctor.


Sharia is not going to take over our nation anytime soon but are we that far away from finding the aftermath of a stoning, honor killing or any other barbaric ritual that is viewed as a "right" in any predominantly muslim neighborhood?

I wonder how the feminists feel about women being treated like property or how the LGBT community will respond if one of their own is murdered for being different.

These marches are all about bring awareness to a perceived threat or concern. I'm sure there will be many who see this as somehow being racist, an attack on islam or they will label it with an "ISM" but the marchers believe sharia is a threat to humanity and the equality for all that America stands for.
Here are some U.S. figures of violence against American women by their partners:

**
Three woman are murdered every day in the United States by a current or former male partner.
**38,028,000--The number of women who have experienced physical intimate partner violence in their lifetimes in the United States.
**1,509--The number of women murdered by men they knew in 2011. Of the 1,509 women, 926 were killed by an intimate partner and 264 of those were killed by an intimate partner during an argument.
**18,000--The number of women who have been killed by men in domestic violence disputes since 2003.
**1 in 4--The number of women who will be victims of severe violence by an intimate partner in their lifetimes.
**40-45--The percentage of women in physically abusive relationships who are raped and/or assaulted during the relationship.

30 Shocking Domestic Violence Statistics That Remind Us It's An Epidemic | HuffPost

When will you be marching to protect American women from the violence perpetrated upon them by American men?
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Old 06-06-2017, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Tell that to the girls in Minneapolis that had their genitals mutilated by a so called doctor.


Sharia is not going to take over our nation anytime soon but are we that far away from finding the aftermath of a stoning, honor killing or any other barbaric ritual that is viewed as a "right" in any predominantly muslim neighborhood?

I wonder how the feminists feel about women being treated like property or how the LGBT community will respond if one of their own is murdered for being different.


These marches are all about bring awareness to a perceived threat or concern. I'm sure there will be many who see this as somehow being racist, an attack on islam or they will label it with an "ISM" but the marchers believe sharia is a threat to humanity and the equality for all that America stands for.
But why target this small piece of a bigger problem specifically if it's not an imminent threat to our nation? There are hundreds of thousands of cases of domestic violence, rape, assault, and overall barbaric acts towards women and the LGBTQ community every year and the vast majority of them aren't a result of Sharia Law.

It doesn't mean Sharia Law isn't a terrible thing. It's just that there are much bigger fish to fry when it comes to violence against women and other vulnerable populations and those bigger fish still include all of the women/groups who are or would be victims of Sharia Law as well.
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Old 06-06-2017, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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When will you be marching to protect American women from the violence perpetrated upon them by American men?
They won't because it doesn't fit the anti-muslim hysteria. It's the same logic behind essentially ignoring gun violence and mass shootings carried out by white men here while being fanatically afraid of Islamic Extremism. One of them is a bigger threat to our daily lives, but the other fits the agenda.
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Old 06-06-2017, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Tell that to the girls in Minneapolis that had their genitals mutilated by a so called doctor.
Do you have the same sympathy for the baby boys in Borough Park, Brooklyn?

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Sharia is not going to take over our nation anytime soon but are we that far away from finding the aftermath of a stoning, honor killing or any other barbaric ritual that is viewed as a "right" in any predominantly muslim neighborhood?

I wonder how the feminists feel about women being treated like property or how the LGBT community will respond if one of their own is murdered for being different.
There are thousands of examples of how both groups react when these sorts of incidents occur now in this country. And they do, and have occurred, with regularity as any daily news report will show.
Women are routinely attacked, maimed and/or killed by their so-called Christian husbands and boyfriends.
The LGBT community suffers just as often. Kids kicked out of their homes. People attacked in the streets, again by so-called Christians who refuse to brook any opposition to their hate-filled interpretations of the Gospels.

And yet, both groups are constantly derided for their concern, activism, etc. because of the belief that their activism is an attack on Christianity.


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These marches are all about bring awareness to a perceived threat or concern. I'm sure there will be many who see this as somehow being racist, an attack on islam or they will label it with an "ISM" but the marchers believe sharia is a threat to humanity and the equality for all that America stands for.


Why are people so blind to what has been happening for decades under their own noses?
Are these some of those examples of "equality?"


https://biblicalgenderroles.com/2016...n-their-place/

How Playing Good Christian Housewife Almost Killed Me | Alternet

How does anyone who claims to uphold the Constitution not see just how absurd this is?
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