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With Obamacare falling apart and the GOP/Senate stalling on offering another plan is Single Payer Healthcare around the corner? California passed a bill this year to enact a single payer plan for every resident. Many other states are following California's lead.
Lawmakers in New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island and Massachusetts proposed single-payer bills this year. Last week, a bill passed the California Senate that would make every resident, legal or not, eligible for coverage – no premium, no copayment, no deductible.
Funny parallel. These are the same lefty-wacko States that you can't ship ammo to, or own firearms without extraordinary complications. Look on Cabela's website and you'll see what I mean. Wonder why all Democrat policies are oppressive? How about government Uber alles!
LOL!
Should everyone who participates either pay the same dollar amount or the same percentage of their paycheck?
In a fair system everyone would pay the same dollar amount, you don't pay more for your Internet service (which progressives also think is a "right" these days) just because you earn more. But the states proposing this aren't interested in fair so I expect some will pay far more than others for the same care.
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez
So, would you support a 15% (or whatever number) blanket tax that everyone pays?
LOL, California will never go with a flat tax. I'm surprised they don't charge people who earn more a higher SALES tax the place is so greedy.
With Obamacare falling apart and the GOP/Senate stalling on offering another plan is Single Payer Healthcare around the corner? California passed a bill this year to enact a single payer plan for every resident. Many other states are following California's lead.
Lawmakers in New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island and Massachusetts proposed single-payer bills this year. Last week, a bill passed the California Senate that would make every resident, legal or not, eligible for coverage – no premium, no copayment, no deductible.
California did NOT pass a Single Payer Healthcare system! The Senate passed a bill...that most think will be DOA...because the cost would double the State budget.
Liberal states have to enact qualification periods for newcomers though. They cannot afford to cover red state refugees when they get sick. Five or ten years would be reasonable before they can be added to the state's insurance coverage.
I think it does need to start in the states if it will ever happen here. But the problem is that Americans expect that they will have the same type of healthcare, only government will be paying. That would cause deficits to balloon. Canada does all types of rationing to prevent that, and I don't think that would be palatable here.
The California proposal in particular is a utopian proposal. No copays, no premiums, just the government paying.
It sucks that we are forced to choose between "cut off people with pre-existing conditions" and "the government pays for everything." Both of those options are not ideal.
Why can't we settle on a sensible Diet-Medicare that you can buy in to if you have no other option?
Liberal states have to enact qualification periods for newcomers though. They cannot afford to cover red state refugees when they get sick. Five or ten years would be reasonable before they can be added to the state's insurance coverage.
Agreed. And until then, they'd still be covered by their old state. Though if they moved to a state without universal healthcare, then they'd forfeit access to their old state's system immediately.
Liberal states have to enact qualification periods for newcomers though. They cannot afford to cover red state refugees when they get sick. Five or ten years would be reasonable before they can be added to the state's insurance coverage.
So, if a liberal moves to California and gets a serious illness a month later, its kind of like a pre-existing condition, and you won't cover it and let her die in the streets.
If my taxes go up less than $350 a month, it's a good deal for me. But it still needs price controls to work.
Since the cost per person in the USA for health care is $9K per year, to properly cover each person that amount of money needs to be spent.
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This won't work if they allow illegals to use the system.
