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Old 06-16-2017, 12:53 PM
 
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Now, apparently our children have become too fragile to not be #1 at everything. So in interests of dumbing down the schools even further to make the lowest denominator feel better about themselves there will no longer be Valedictorians.

We certainly would not want them to learn terrible lessons like students who work harder than you might possibly be recognized for it over YOU. So we have to protect the feelings of these little snowflakes so they can become good liberals someday and protest things they cannot even understand because they are flat out stupid and ignorant.

Again, Catholic school for my 5 kids was the best investment I ever made.

https://apnews.com/1df37d18e36149878...-class-ranking
lol, cool story bro.

I am glad you feel the need to justify the cost by posting online. I am somewhat wealthy and happen to know someone who studied this on a large scale using all th meta data available. The results are private and NDAs mean i cannot provide you anything at all.

but what i can say is this, if your kid is dumb/stupid but no actually disablity private school is the way to go.

otherwise most of the time public schools provide a path forward and the primary factor of success is a social one.

But cool, enjoy your private school, as long as you do not defund public to do it. It is a choice, just like my buying a car should not pull funds from transit.
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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lol, cool story bro.

I am glad you feel the need to justify the cost by posting online. I am somewhat wealthy and happen to know someone who studied this on a large scale using all th meta data available. The results are private and NDAs mean i cannot provide you anything at all.

but what i can say is this, if your kid is dumb/stupid but no actually disablity private school is the way to go.

otherwise most of the time public schools provide a path forward and the primary factor of success is a social one.

But cool, enjoy your private school, as long as you do not defund public to do it. It is a choice, just like my buying a car should not pull funds from transit.
I hate the word defund because it makes it sound so neutral. What you should say is "enjoy your private school and car, as long as you're still forced to pay for other people's stuff".
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:29 PM
 
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I hate the word defund because it makes it sound so neutral. What you should say is "enjoy your private school and car, as long as you're still forced to pay for other people's stuff".
We don't have a country without others paying for other "peoples stuff". No, we are not going to build interstates and bridges privately.
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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We don't have a country without others paying for other "peoples stuff". No, we are not going to build interstates and bridges privately.
Not sure what any of that has to do with what I said...
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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I hate the word defund because it makes it sound so neutral. What you should say is "enjoy your private school and car, as long as you're still forced to pay for other people's stuff".
The "forced to pay for other people's stuff" argument is DEAD.

And i am glad to explain it to you.


the Nurse who help change a diaper when you are 129 years old, needed a school, and YOU need to pay into that in order to ever have a nurse.

The woman who teaches the janitor to read needs to be taught to teach.


Or do you think rich people could have services, without wide spread education for all. Who would you hire to manage your factory if only rich people had access to a solid education.


I know you will pretend this is not true, but a modern developed nation requires that the vast majority receive a full high school education and a large percentage of 3rd level graduates.

Who would maintain this website? Who would do an evaluation of your properties for lending purposes? Do you think a private schooled kid with a 300K 3rd level ed is going to do that work?


In short you appear not to have thought any of this through and went with the good old "greed" knee jerk, and forgot that you rely on well educated folk everyday of your life and that you would likely go broke paying outrageous fees if the majority of the pop did not have the education to provide services, design goods, tax planning etc..

stop funding public ed and we become a 4th world nation. (4th because we would be going backward)
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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Not sure what any of that has to do with what I said...
Yes you do.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:22 PM
 
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As if government schools don't indoctrinate them...
My public schools taught us the art of critical thinking. How much of that do conservative home schooling parents provide?

My public high school was ranked among the top 45 high schools in the country when I was a student there. Along with other outstanding public high schools, it was featured in "Life" magazine. SAT and ACT scores soared. My classmates have gone on to do extremely well in a wide variety of fields and professions. I am unaware of any classmates who have suffered from having received public school educations or who have felt hampered in any way because of our public school background.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:31 PM
 
Location: USA
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How much of [critical thinking] do conservative home schooling parents provide?
Very little, which means that they are setting up their children for failure in this hyper-competitive globalized economy.

The same goes for children raised in schools run by fringe religious sects like the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod and the Seventh Day Adventist Church.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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Very little, which means that they are setting up their children for failure in this hyper-competitive globalized economy.

The same goes for children raised in schools run by fringe religious sects like the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod and the Seventh Day Adventist Church.
You have no idea what people are teaching their kids. As long as their are choices I do not understand people demeaning the choices others make.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:40 PM
 
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You have no idea what people are teaching their kids. As long as their are choices I do not understand people demeaning the choices others make.
Some choices are harmful to others. If I chose to dump my garbage on your front lawn, you would probably demean that choice.

Understand now?
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