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Old 07-13-2017, 09:42 AM
 
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You see, the concept of feminism itself is a false construct. There is absolutely no proof that any woman is equal to any man in any way. Gender equality is a false contruct. Modern day liberalism and globalism are falsely created ideologies that only create disharmony for more globalist controller profits. It is all a scam. Democratic entrenched cities in America are rife with scams, corruption, dysfunction and decay which has insiduously and rampantly gotten much worse because of globalism, of which many feminists seem to ignorantly embrace.

Equality is a myth. Nobody should be expected to be equal to anybody or anything else than who they were meant to be and already are.

The Constitution states that "All people are equal under law". Unfortunately this is not true either. It should be.

There is no such thing as equality for the human race in American as long as as there is Captialism. There is nothing inherently wrong with captialism but when you mix it with a globalized economy mixed with central banking it becomes very problematic to the American economy.

The irony is that many liberals apparently support globalism and central banking . They are also unwittingly supporting global welfare for the rich and communism.
Thank you for your meaningless opinion.
Equality does not mean the same.
Equal refers to equal value. Its really very simple.
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Old 07-13-2017, 10:05 AM
 
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Equality is a myth. Nobody should be expected to be equal to anybody or anything else than who they were meant to be and already are.
Wow. We're on page 77 and it appears you've completely misunderstood the concept of "equality" as understood by feminism (and civil right movements, in general). I doubt that you can find a single person in this thread who claims that everyone is literally equal. No one expects a paraplegic to run as fast as a Olympic track star. That's just not what equality ever means in political discussions of this sort.
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The Constitution states that "All people are equal under law". Unfortunately this is not true either. It should be.
Yes. Exactly. This is the equality that feminists and civil right leaders talk about. Legally/politically people should be treated fairly, without discrimination on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.

Since you agree that all people should be treated equally under the law, it appears that you are a closet feminist and you've just outted yourself.

Of course, to be fair, I have to admit that most feminists are pushing for more that just technical legal verbiage. They are promoting a change in the hearts and mind of Americans hoping that the majority will internalize this concept of equality, which is to say, we want people to feel the common-sense principle of equal protection - to treat people fairly not just because they are legally required, but also because such fairness just intuitively makes sense. That part of feminism is not so much a legal struggle as it is a social/cultural campaign to convince people that equality is our best moral option.

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Old 07-13-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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You see, the concept of feminism itself is a false construct. There is absolutely no proof that any woman is equal to any man in any way. Gender equality is a false contruct. Modern day liberalism and globalism are falsely created ideologies that only create disharmony for more globalist controller profits. It is all a scam. Democratic entrenched cities in America are rife with scams, corruption, dysfunction and decay which has insiduously and rampantly gotten much worse because of globalism, of which many feminists seem to ignorantly embrace.

Equality is a myth. Nobody should be expected to be equal to anybody or anything else than who they were meant to be and already are.

The Constitution states that "All people are equal under law". Unfortunately this is not true either. It should be.

There is no such thing as equality for the human race in American as long as as there is Captialism. There is nothing inherently wrong with captialism but when you mix it with a globalized economy mixed with central banking it becomes very problematic to the American economy.

The irony is that many liberals and feminists apparently support globalism and central banking . They are also unwittingly supporting global welfare for the rich and communism.

The ideologies of globalism, liberalism and feminism do not make any long term sense.
Gender equality is fine the problem is feminists are hypocrites and they can't really handle reversed gender roles, so they want to pick and choose the bits and pieces of each category they like. This why I linked the article about women whining about how there's not enough well off men and men with Master's degrees. Men never whined about that so feminists shouldn't be whining about it in the modern era.

They also like to work the system to take advantage of men and there's still a lot of areas where women will get a way better deal than a man. I can think of about 10 just off the top of my head.

Modern era man that's a lawyer : Will marry the paralegal at the law firm down the street, will accept taking on the breadwinner role. Same stance men have always had.

Modern era woman that's a lawyer that identifies herself as a feminist : Still won't marry the guy that's a paralegal at the firm down the street, wants man to make more money than her and will not accept being the breadwinner. Man must also have a Master's degree or higher.
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Old 07-13-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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Gender equality is fine the problem is feminists are hypocrites and they can't really handle reversed gender roles, so they want to pick and choose the bits and pieces of each category they like. This why I linked the article about women whining about how there's not enough well off men and men with Master's degrees. Men never whined about that so feminists shouldn't be whining about it in the modern era.

Modern era man that's a lawyer - Will marry the paralegal at the law firm down the street, will accept taking on the breadwinner role. Same stance men have always had.

Modern era woman that's a lawyer that identifies herself as a feminist - Still won't marry the guy that's a paralegal at the firm down the street, wants man to make more money than her and will not accept being the breadwinner.
Just as has been explained again as feminism does not mean literally equal, no two people or two people within a group or movement are literally equal. Therefore not all feminist whine about not dating educated ambitious men (actually few do). Nor are they hypocrites as an equal number of women are in the workforce, heads of households and taking on the traditional gender roles of men, husbands, and fathers.
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Old 07-13-2017, 10:52 AM
 
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Modern era woman that's a lawyer that identifies herself as a feminist : Still won't marry the guy that's a paralegal at the firm down the street, wants man to make more money than her and will not accept being the breadwinner. Man must also have a Master's degree or higher.
I know plenty of women bread winners but this is not a major urban area, people are not so elitist and are more practical. I really don't know of any who care about what degree a guy has. Most of them are with sporty blue collar type guys who can build bookshelves and fix the leak in the hot tub.

With the power couples, the man and the woman must be breadwinners.
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Old 07-13-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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Interview questions from 40 or 50 years ago. "Are you married?" "Do you plan on getting married?" "Are you going to have children?" "Do you have someone to take care of them when they get sick?" "Will you take days off from work to stay with your sick children?"

Do you think they asked this of prospective Male employees then? Do you think it is common for them to ask this of Female employees today?
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Old 07-13-2017, 12:32 PM
 
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Interview questions from 40 or 50 years ago. "Are you married?" "Do you plan on getting married?" "Are you going to have children?" "Do you have someone to take care of them when they get sick?" "Will you take days off from work to stay with your sick children?"

Do you think they asked this of prospective Male employees then? Do you think it is common for them to ask this of Female employees today?
Believe me, it's been a lot less than 50 or even 40 years ago that women have been asked these questions.
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Old 07-13-2017, 12:37 PM
 
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Believe me, it's been a lot less than 50 or even 40 years ago that women have been asked these questions.
Companies are still discriminatory in general... they are just better at hiding it now and human resources departments are basically designed to make sure the company beats the system without getting sued.

Every HR manager I've ever seen is basically just interested in the legal aspects of everything primarily. "Can we do this or not do this without getting sued?" is the usually question posed and what they're concerned with.
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Old 07-13-2017, 12:39 PM
 
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You see, the concept of feminism itself is a false construct. There is absolutely no proof that any woman is equal to any man in any way. Gender equality is a false contruct.
I mean, if that's what you believe, then good for you.
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