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Old 07-05-2017, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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You are so programmed and brainwashed by the social media you read and the slanted TV you watch you are probably barely functional.

Donald Trump has a long history of charity and kind deeds but you will NEVER see that were you are learning whatever it is you are seeking.

Like the homeless woman who has been living in Trump Tower for the last 8 years. Donald happened to be there the day the police were called because this woman had snuck in and was sleeping in the hallways. He gave her a room with room service and told the manager to let her stay. 8 years ago.
That story has been debunked by Trump's own people.

He has little to no history of charitable giving. Pretty astonishing for someone with his supposed wealth, actually.
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Old 07-05-2017, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Would trump and the right be offering this if he were a Muslim baby in the middle east?

Agree it's an empty and meaningless tweet by trump as trumpcare will take away medicaid from poor families in his own country. What happened to America first?

Heartbreaking for the parents. I can't even imagine.
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Old 07-05-2017, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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That story has been debunked by Trump's own people.

He has little to no history of charitable giving. Pretty astonishing for someone with his supposed wealth, actually.

It should be noted that Great Ormond Street Hospital is the oldest childrens hospital in the English speaking world, and has lots of wealthy benefactors, it is world famous and is considered to be one of the best childrens hospitals in the entire world. J.M Barrie who wrote Peter Pan even left the copyright to the hospital.

Great Ormond Street Hospital set to complete Phase 2B, the Premier Inn Clinical Building within the new £300 million Mittal Children's Medical Centre in 2017. Phase 3 of the hospital redevelopment will the £65m Zayed Centre for Research into Rare Disease in Children, which is set to be completed in 2018. It is envisaged that the £200 million Phase 4 redevelopment will be complete in 2022.

The new Zayed Centre will bring together 400 world-leading scientists and clinicians in order to research rare disease in children, and is the the world’s first such centre.

How the Zayed Centre for Research will revolutionise the treatment of patients at Great Ormond Street Hospital | The Independent

Give to GOSH: ‘New centre will speed up discovery of cures for rare childhood diseases’

What will be in the Zayed Centre for Research into Rare Disease in Children | Great Ormond Street Hospital Children's Charity


When I say wealthy benefactors I mean people like the late Highness Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan hereditary ruler of Abu Dhabi, the richest emirate in the U.A.E., Al-Nahyan was among the world's wealthiest monarchs who ran one of the world's largest sovereign wealth fund, with reported assets of almost $800 billion. His widow Sheikha Fatima bint Mubarak generously donated money to Great Ormond Street for the new Zayed Centre.

Whilst steel magnate Lakshmi Mittal and his son Aditya Mittal are worth around $17 Billion and have also generously donated money to Great Ormond Street Hospital and there are numerous other such wealthy benefactoirs who help Great Ormond Street which in turn treats sick children from across the world. Indeed Lord Sugar who is the billionaire star of the British version of 'The Apprentice' has continually raised funds and made generous donations to GOSH.

Believe me if Great Ormond Street Hospital thought there was any way this baby could be helped they would do it, the problem is the child is in pain, is suffering and there is no cure or magic treatment.
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:52 AM
 
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Obvious? Is it? Do you have something to back up this claim?
There is no need to back up the obvious.

Why?

Because it's obvious.
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:55 AM
 
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Would trump and the right be offering this if he were a Muslim baby in the middle east?

Agree it's an empty and meaningless tweet by trump as trumpcare will take away medicaid from poor families in his own country. What happened to America first?

Heartbreaking for the parents. I can't even imagine.
Well with the botched first Executive Order there was a newborn on his way to have surgery in the USA....the baby was denied entry..

Medical impact of Trump travel ban: baby
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:56 AM
 
Location: My House
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A president that actually cares.

President Trump offers to help terminally ill 10-month-old UK baby Charlie Gard

No offers of help from the "caring" left though. So much for the Clinton foundation.
Seriously?

The man who wants to kick American kids off healthcare insurance champions a British baby who has no chance of survival and this is seen as him “caring?”
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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There is no visible evidence that he's suffering, and I don't believe that this case is about Charlie.

Rather, it's about statists trying to expand their power of life and death over the common people.
What evidence have you seen? Or are you basing your assumption on a video?
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:58 AM
 
Location: My House
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If he did not show any interest in helping this family, then he would be criticized for that.....just can't win.

We paid for our family health insurance for 18 years, $18,000 - $20,000 a month. Obamacare made it worse.....we paid more for less. We struggled to make this payment every month. It was our responsibility, not arguing about that. Middle class were not given any kind of break.....made it worse. Those under Obamacare who have a lower income are given government subsidies, they are being helped. Again, the burden falls on the middle. We never hear about this. All we keep hearing about is people will no longer have insurance. I don't mind people who are able bodied, working and contributing members of society getting assistance/subsidies. That is fine. My point is....perhaps those that can will have to take on more responsibility under the new plan. Those that can't, will in one way or the other be assisted. Sorry I am off topic and venting, but there is another side of this too.
Not true. I would not criticize a world leader of ANY country for not intervening in a case that trained medical doctors have agreed is absolutely hopeless.
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Old 07-05-2017, 07:04 AM
 
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Seriously?

The man who wants to kick American kids off healthcare insurance champions a British baby who has no chance of survival and this is seen as him “caring?”
It is more caring than an uninvolved government court not allowing the parents to seek outside care.

Our healthcare system is broken. The only argument against trying to fix it is everyone will not be insured. That does not make for an effective health system. Even if everyone is insured, it is no good if the system is not sustainable.


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Not true. I would not criticize a world leader of ANY country for not intervening in a case that trained medical doctors have agreed is absolutely hopeless.
Do all doctors have the same training, expertise, equipment, facilities? No. Do all doctors agree on every single aspect of health care? Have you ever gotten a diagnosis and wanted a second opinion?

If another facility is willing to work on Charlie, why not let them?
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Old 07-05-2017, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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It is more caring than an uninvolved government court not allowing the parents to seek outside care.

Our healthcare system is broken. The only argument against trying to fix it is everyone will not be insured. That does not make for an effective health system. Even if everyone is insured, it is no good if the system is not sustainable.
The Courts are nothing to do with Government, and the British Government has lost numerous cases at the European Court of Human Rights.

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Do all doctors have the same training, expertise, equipment, facilities? No. Do all doctors agree on every single aspect of health care? Have you ever gotten a diagnosis and wanted a second opinion?

If another facility is willing to work on Charlie, why not let them?
It is often mentioned that GOSH is considered to be one of the top five children’s hospitals in the world.

Great Ormond Street Hospital has a very close collaborative relationship with one of Americas Top Childrens Hospitals, the Cincinnati Children’s Hospital Medical Center.

Our place in the wider world | Great Ormond Street Hospital
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