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Old 07-14-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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This thread is about Don Jr. and the Trump team meeting with the Russians.
Yeah, that was what the meeting was about, remember? Russian adoptions. This was yet another lobbying attempt by the Russian operative lawyer to get the Magnitsky Act repealed:

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"She also engaged in a pro-Russia lobbying campaign and attended an event at the Newseum in Washington, D.C., where Russian supporters showed a movie that challenged the underpinnings of the U.S. human rights law known as the Magnitsky Act, which Russian President Vladimir Putin has reviled and tried to reverse.

The Magnitsky Act imposed financial and other sanctions on Russia for alleged human rights violations connected to the death of a Russian lawyer who claimed to uncover fraud during Putin's reign. Russia retaliated after the law was passed in 2012 by suspending Americans' ability to adopt Russian children.

At least five congressional staffers and State Department officials attended that movie showing, according to a Foreign Agent Registration Act complaint filed with the Justice Department about Veselnitskaya’s efforts."
Exclusive: DOJ let Russian lawyer into US before she met with Trump team | TheHill

There's NO WAY Loretta Lynch and the Obama DOJ should have permitted a foreign operative to be present in the US without a visa to lobby on behalf of the benefit of the Russian government.

 
Old 07-14-2017, 06:52 AM
 
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To lobby Congress and the State Department to repeal the Magnitsky Act? Why would Loretta Lynch and the Obama DOJ allow that? Especially after official complaints were lodged against her for doing so?
Yes, I can picture Loretta Lynch and Barack Obama huddled around the resolute desk late at night conspiring to entrap Donald Trump Jr. by purposefully allowing some woman neither had likely ever heard of to overstay her permissible entry to the US.

GTFO with this. Isn't there a thread on Infowars where you can peddle this nonsense?
 
Old 07-14-2017, 06:56 AM
 
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Yes, I can picture Loretta Lynch and Barack Obama huddled around the resolute desk late at night conspiring about entrapping Donald Trump by allowing some woman that neither had likely ever heard of by purposefully allowing her to overstay her permissible entry to the US.

GTFO with this. Isn't there a thread on Infowars where you can peddle this nonsense?
And then NOT using the information they had to win the election, instead playing some kind of 5th dimensional chess that basically requires Trump to be a complete and total idiot for it to have any kind of chance of working at all.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 06:57 AM
 
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Simple question Trump worshipping fools: if this was a conspiracy by Obama to entrap the Trump team, why wasn't news of the meeting leaked before the election?

Amazing that in all your high level thinking ( ) the idea of how absurd this insinuation is (regurgitated by Fox News and talk radio minions predictably as fact since they are mindless tools) never crossed your mind.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 06:58 AM
 
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We have officially become more absurdist in real life than Boris and Natasha ever were in cartoon form.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 06:59 AM
 
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And then NOT using the information they had to win the election, instead playing some kind of 5th dimensional chess that basically requires Trump to be a complete and total idiot for it to have any kind of chance of working at all.

Exactly. But guess what? For the next few weeks, the small minded team sports Fox News set will be peddling the idea that this was a conspiracy by the Dems against Trump. It's getting more and more embarrassing to even know people who buy this garbage.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 07:04 AM
 
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Chance and Change: I admire your passion and patriotism, and understand your frustration at the apparent passivity of many of your acquaintances in regard to current events.

I would urge you to use that passion not only online, but in real life.

Continue to contact your senators and representatives. Join organizations which work for the same goals you care so much about. See what you can do to assist your local party of choice. Help register voters. Write letters to your local paper. Attend rallies for the causes you support. Contribute when and if you can.

Continue to speak out. Choose your words carefully and keep things as succinct and to the point as possible. Most people have fairly short attention spans, unfortunately, so choose your main points and concentrate on making them understood. Keep things simple - this is a lesson the opposition needs to learn from those currently in office.

Avoid ad hominem accusations (which the opposition is so fond of). Listen to others, even if you don't agree with them - find out what's driving them, and work from there. You may have to agree to disagree with some, but there will be others with whom you can find common ground.

Above all, don't lose heart. This, too, shall pass, and good folks like yourself can expedite that passage. Meanwhile, find others who share your passion for democracy and work with them to make the change you want happen.

Do not waste time and energy on those who refuse to see reality and are entrenched in supporting their hero at all costs and despite the ever-increasing evidence of corruption. Find those traditional conservatives who love their country and who are still open-minded and willing to admit that there may be problems, even if they originally supported those who promised more than could possibly be delivered. They are victims, too. Offer them understanding, sympathy - and hope for a different future.

Best wishes to you. Keep on keeping on.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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Yes, I can picture Loretta Lynch and Barack Obama huddled around the resolute desk late at night conspiring to entrap Donald Trump Jr. by purposefully allowing some woman neither had likely ever heard of to overstay her permissible entry to the US.

GTFO with this.
No, I will not.

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"At least five congressional staffers and State Department officials attended that movie showing, according to a Foreign Agent Registration Act complaint filed with the Justice Department about Veselnitskaya’s efforts."
Exclusive: DOJ let Russian lawyer into US before she met with Trump team | TheHill

Yet, Loretta Lynch and the Obama DOJ allowed her to remain in the US without a visa to lobby Congress and the State Department, using the 'Russian Adoption' appeal (same tactic used in the DJT Jr meeting), to repeal the Magnitsky Act on behalf of the Russian Government and Putin. WHY?

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Old 07-14-2017, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Exactly. But guess what? For the next few weeks, the small minded team sports Fox News set will be peddling the idea that this was a conspiracy by the Dems against Trump. It's getting more and more embarrassing to even know people who buy this garbage.
The Fox Fans And Hannity Huggers are the people who keep the National Enquirer and the Weekly World News in business. They are a different species entirely.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 07:15 AM
 
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Yet, Loretta Lynch and the Obama DOJ allowed her to remain in the US without a visa to lobby Congress and the State Department to repeal the Magnitsky Acton behalf of the Russian Government and Putin. WHY?
Surely it was so that several months after that LOST the national election that they might have been able to WIN with this info, they knew that the Trump team would layer easily disprovable lies on top of lies as well as be too incompetent to effectively hide it, and eventually it would become a news item thus making the republicans look bad and potentially contributing to a future effort to impeach Trump so that they end up with Pence as president. We know they did it because we intercepted the radio messages sent from the secret radios in their teeth that they used to orchestrate the situation.

I mean they are just regular Nostradamuses.
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