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Old 07-16-2017, 05:42 PM
 
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Back to Brexit.

EU is holding firm that Brexit means Brexit. EU won't be negotiating any trade agreements until that's done.

The pound is down. Banks are looking to move parts of their operations to the EU. Manufacturers are exploring options.

Plus, it turns out that citizens were lied to during the Brexit campaign. Despite all those bus ads, seems there won't be millions to put in the NHS and so on.

EU just signed a trade agreement with Japan. Life rolls on, with or without the UK.
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:47 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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The Scots main trading nation is England and not Europe. If the Scots voted for independence and if they were allowed to join the EU (which is a big 'if') they would have to negotiate entry in to the EU under EU terms and any new EU member now has to adopt the Euro. England & Wales will no doubt retain the pound, whilst new border controls would have to be put in place as the two countries would be different economic areas. Scotland would also have to negotiate a trading agreement with England.

Scotland exports around £70 Billion of which over £50 Billion is to the rest of the UK (mainly England) and exports over £20 Billion, around £10 Billion to the EU and a further £10 Billion to the rest of the world. This is a lot more than money generated by oil and gas.

The economy of Scotland is very highly integrated with the economy of the rest of the UK and this includes companies based in Scotland that supply goods and services to the rest of the UK. The Scottish Economy is more intergrated with the UK than it is with the entirety of the EU. Having two seperate currencies could deeply effect Scotlands biggest market and the economy it is most intergrated with.

Furthermore Scotland has significant representation in Westminster with 59 MP's and a say within the UK, an Independent Scotland would lose all influence in Westminster abd even if it managed to join the EU would only have a mere 6 seats in the European Parliament. I think if anything the Scots have a very good deal the way things stand and that's without even taking in to consideration the Public Service and Defence jobs that would be lost, whilst Scotland currently has the largest budget deficit in the EU and wouldn't even qualify fir EU membership on this criteria alone.



My husband read that the Scots fishermen like to have their territory back, no more EU. I believe Economist is the source.
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:53 PM
 
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Surely you can think of a more recent example, just one.
LMAO! Cruel man, cruel.
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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My husband read that the Scots fishermen like to have their territory back, no more EU. I believe Economist is the source.
Th best political/economic magazine on Earth as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 07-16-2017, 05:57 PM
 
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Th best political/economic magazine on Earth as far as I'm concerned.
No it's a piece of crap but my husband gets some information about UK. He has threatened to cancel his subscription before.
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:04 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure the statists and those who profit from not exiting will marshall the propaganda and government force to prevent Brexit from actually happening.

I'm going to put money on that: Predict It - The Stock Market for Politics
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:08 PM
 
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No it's a piece of crap but my husband gets some information about UK. He has threatened to cancel his subscription before.
Yeah, they've built up a solid reputation by being a "piece of crap" rag. Because you know, that's how you become a well respected publishing institution.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:59 PM
 
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Th best political/economic magazine on Earth as far as I'm concerned.
And we just know you've read them all, worldwide, so your opinion on the matter is highly valued.

Desert hasn't been stomping this planet long enough to know the difference between what people actually value and what degree of BS the business/media/advertising world just pumps out.

Rather like...... the fraudulently-conducted election polls of 2016.

How'd that work out for credibility?
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:30 PM
 
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And we just know you've read them all, worldwide, so your opinion on the matter is highly valued.

Desert hasn't been stomping this planet long enough to know the difference between what people actually value and what degree of BS the business/media/advertising world just pumps out.

Rather like...... the fraudulently-conducted election polls of 2016.

How'd that work out for credibility?
That's the difference between you and I. I know what the hell my knowledge limitations are. I don't know enough about British Affairs to say that Tony Blair is wrong.

Neither do you. You know even less than I do, and I don't know much of anything on the topic.

So there you have it. Anymore insults you wanna lob? Because I'm built for this.
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Old 07-17-2017, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Oh really now? And you were against the Iraq War of course!
Yes, of course. I mostly follow the libertarian philosophy which opposes all foreign wars.
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