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Old 09-25-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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NFL players are cautioned not to engage in behavior that reflects poorly on the reputation of the team or the league.

This last bullet point is a sort of vaguely worded catch all, for the types of behaviors that are not easily anticipated or defined.

Personal Conduct Policy] NFL - Personal Conduct Policy

Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players.

And who presides over this? Roger Goodell the NFL commissioner. He has already backed the players right to protest during the anthem. Case closed. He is the judge and jury in this matter.
https://nesn.com/2017/08/roger-goode...tional-anthem/

 
Old 09-25-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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if they had laid down, i think that would have upset enough fans that the NFL would lose a ton of viewership, their ratings would go in the tank, and TV contracts would probably go away, losing a ton of money for the NFL and the teams. and guys like jerry jones would not be very happy with that.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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A man who sees things clearly. He is right on all his points on the NFL and the President.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsGt4PYluiM
I'm curious as to if this man is a cop.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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For those who view what the players are doing now in response to Trump as "protesting basically our whole country and what it stands for," there is no help.

For those who can understand such expression or protest against more specific wrong-doing in America rather than all else America stands for, some progress is perhaps made possible, better awareness and sensitivity to what problems we still contend with anyway, for some people anyway.

You make a big mistake and are actually part of the problem when you take a message like these acts of dissent are supposed to send and twist them into something else entirely. It's like trying to take the action of a white person on behalf of a black person and suggesting this must mean they are against all fellow white folks.

Wrong, wrong, wrong on too many levels!
Trump and the Rs are trying to twist a protest for fair treatment of blacks into an anti-military, anti-U.S.A. action.

It isn't.

They are liars.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 12:37 PM
 
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POTUS is just as free to comment. I wish he hadn't, but he has that right.
Trump could comment that women will let you treat them like bowling balls when you are famous, and Trump certainly has that right. Right! But I think we're talking a bit more about substance here, right? Not whether Trump has the right to be a nitwit. We all know he certainly has that right and is seemingly intent on taking advantage of that right.

Wait, Trump DID actually also make that comment about women too. Right? Guess that right makes it entirely okay or beyond judgment -- criticism/dissent/ protest -- when the leader of the free world decides to say such things...
 
Old 09-25-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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They claim this Dis-Respect of the US Flag & National Anthem is an "opposition to fight those who deny our basic freedoms" and for justice and equality.

What exactly is it that these Multi-Millionaire Sports 'heroes' are denied? What "freedoms" don't they have that they are demanding? None of it makes any sense.

https://twitter.com/seahawksPR/statu...38744408166401
Michael Bennett would argue some profiling occurred or freedoms denied to him recently. Additionally their income isn't or shouldn't be an issue it's brought up as a straw man
 
Old 09-25-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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And who presides over this? Roger Goodell the NFL commissioner. He has already backed the players right to protest during the anthem. Case closed. He is the judge and jury in this matter.
https://nesn.com/2017/08/roger-goode...tional-anthem/
Roger Goodell has no power to decide who starts and who rides the bench. Any owner can tell the coach to sit a player without even giving a reason. An owner can even tell the front office which free agent players to pass on for trades. Ultimately, it comes down to each owner.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 12:40 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I just had a thought about the controversy regarding the kneeling players in the NFL.
It could be worse, they could be laying down on the field like they have been shot dead.

Do you remember when protestors were laying down in city streets last year causing all sorts of traffic problems.

They could lay down dead as if Trump, the Police and Racist America killed them.

That would be worse then taking a knee.
Unless kapernicks knee locked up and he had to come up with an excuse as to why he knelt other than his deteriorating health. Others copied CK not knowing he just had a bad knee he was covering up.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 12:41 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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He's right.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 12:42 PM
 
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Eh...it's a bit murky there. He needs to remember that he is representing the US government, and when he speaks in these ways, it could be construed as government interference of one's free speech.

He really, really should shut his mouth, either way. Take the high road and either don't comment, or say something respectful regarding people's rights to their free speech.

Anything more severe can be crossing a line, in my opinion. He needs to remember where his comments are coming from as the President. This is a big deal and he should really be taking it more seriously (and goes well beyond his comments on athletes and the national anthem).
True, and still more than that...

We Americans don't typically appreciate when anyone uses their power to pick "winners and losers" in the free market. It's done of course, but generally the sentiment is that government should stay clear of what transpires in the market place (within reason).

Here with Trump, however, despite what seems to be a rather staunch conservative base, we see how it is perfectly okay for Trump to single out a business, like the NFL, and decide -- publicly -- to "suggest" how the business should be run, drawing attention to diminishing ratings no less! Didn't think it would stop with Carrier and the rest, but I surely didn't see this coming. Much like his election, I just didn't see how ludicrous things would get with Trump...
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