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Old 08-19-2017, 09:49 AM
 
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Again, not my friend. Just a person who is presumed innocent until proven guilty, as we all are when a case goes to trial.
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True, but that doesn't do away with informed opinions, common sense of the charges (being added to as we speak) being filed.

Where there is a LOT of smoke, there is probably fire. One has to suspend all sanity to think this particular guy - probably one of the biggest haters in attendance and likely mentally ill on top of it - just "had an accident".

IMHO, he is unlikely to see the outside of a prison for a decade or more. I hope it's longer...because a teen who would abuse their mother in a wheelchair is a danger to society.

 
Old 08-19-2017, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Yes, really. Look at the cars in another Charlottesville intersection nearly slam into each other in a panicked attempt to try to escape the violence-crazed counter-protester mob chasing them even before their cars were physically attacked by the mob (at about 1:50 in the video):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzhqO3iYlxk

The azzholes were throwing cement-filled soda cans at people and cars (also seen in the above video after about the 1:50 mark):

https://twitter.com/WardDPatrick/sta...21370678185986

You think it's unreasonable to flee that insanity? No jury in the world will believe that.
Two separate incidents and does not relate to the driver of the car who killed and injured.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 09:53 AM
 
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We can go round and round on this for and against . Both sides have forgotten about the concept of Free Speech. Everyone forgets that Free speech is about speaking responsibly and actually letting the other sde speak.


It can be said the BLM and Anitfa (cowards with their hoof garb) .The Local and State Democratic Gov. could of did more to protect these Protestors from themselves.


Now we have attack on our History in Boston. I hope the Boston PD and the Governors Office will control and pull the few Protestors who has been escalating the violence.


The Left wants erase our History. The Brown Shirts of Nazi Germany did the same thing on Hitler's raise to power. Hmmmm


Is History Repeating itself??????
 
Old 08-19-2017, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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He didn't go into reverse after the blue-shirted attacker struck his car. He accelerated forward, slammed into the stopped cars, and THEN reversed. Clearly shown in the video captured from behind the car.
How can you tell that the driver "accelerated forward" after being hit with a pole? It appears to me that the driver was already accelerating forward during the time his car was hit with a flag pole. I would hit a car also if I witnessed it accelerating toward pedestrians.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 09:58 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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He didn't go into reverse after the blue-shirted attacker struck his car. He accelerated forward, slammed into the stopped cars, and THEN reversed. Clearly shown in the video captured from behind the car.
You want to be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. Next topic.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 10:00 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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True, but that doesn't do away with informed opinions, common sense of the charges (being added to as we speak) being filed.

Where there is a LOT of smoke, there is probably fire. One has to suspend all sanity to think this particular guy - probably one of the biggest haters in attendance and likely mentally ill on top of it - just "had an accident".

IMHO, he is unlikely to see the outside of a prison for a decade or more.
I sincerely doubt it. WAY too much evidence to the contrary: The blue-shirted attacker striking his car before he accelerated forward to flee attack, the supposedly "peaceful" counter-ptotesters throwing cement-filled soda cans at and kicking cars in Charlottesville streets just for being there, causing that one close call at another Charlottesville intersection where 3 to 4 cars barely missed slamming into each in a panicked attempt to flee the violence-crazed mob, etc., etc.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 10:02 AM
 
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Two separate incidents and does not relate to the driver of the car who killed and injured.
It shows the mentality and actions/behavior of the violence-crazed lefty mobs and why the driver would fear for his life after his car was physically attacked.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 10:08 AM
 
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You want to be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. Next topic.
The Last 2 post is not relative. The Problem is the Left is trying to take this incident to the next level. The real issue is we have extremist on BOTH SIDES trying to jam their Political Ideology on the rest of the country.


We need to follow the rule of law and as a country respect other ideas even if it is opposite of yours.


If this escalates someone will make this a armed with guns issues. One side escalates the issue this all goes south real quick!


Think People how your action may affect your fellow citizen. Everybody should go and not die over Free Speech.


We fought in the Civil War and 620K died in that conflict.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 10:08 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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We can go round and round on this for and against . Both sides have forgotten about the concept of Free Speech. Everyone forgets that Free speech is about speaking responsibly and actually letting the other sde speak.


It can be said the BLM and Anitfa (cowards with their hoof garb) .The Local and State Democratic Gov. could of did more to protect these Protestors from themselves.


Now we have attack on our History in Boston. I hope the Boston PD and the Governors Office will control and pull the few Protestors who has been escalating the violence.


The Left wants erase our History. The Brown Shirts of Nazi Germany did the same thing on Hitler's raise to power. Hmmmm


And Mao did the same thing in China.


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Is History Repeating itself??????
Yes.

The LEFT is removing statues... renaming buildings, streets, bridges, parks, etc... banning books from school curriculum reading lists, etc. The LEFT is doing EXACTLY what Orwell warned about in 1984...

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984

Only the left is too bereft of intellectual ability and/or too under-educated to understand the ramifications of the Authoritarian Totalitarianism playbook they're enacting item by item. /SMH
 
Old 08-19-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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How can you tell that the driver "accelerated forward" after being hit with a pole?
Not only has the video already been posted, so have the still frame images...

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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
More still frames:

The acceleration into the stopped cars is after the flagpole attack. The initial image shows the driver braking to allow the armed person and others out of the way. The armed attacker is able to get out of the way while the car brakes. Steps behind it and then swings his flagpole striking the car.

The initial attacker is seen here in the background (in the blue shirt, behind the guy with the backpack) of the image as the car brakes:

http://i.imgur.com/IX3ZAt7.jpg

The attacker then steps behind the car and swings his flagpole, striking the car:

http://i.imgur.com/E3NoqnU.jpg

Then the acceleration occurs. The audio of the video has the strike to the car then the rev of the engine.

The timeline is: brake for crowd in street -> strike from the rear by the counter-protester in the blue shirt who had been in front of the car when it slowed for the crowd -> forward acceleration to flee attack.

Note that there is enough time for the attacker to get out of the way and step behind the vehicle to strike it. Contraindicates high rate of speed into stopped cars until AFTER his car was struck from behind. He was fleeing attack.

There's no way to prosecute this driver. VERY reasonable doubt given the video and still frame evidence.
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