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View Poll Results: Should we remove all tributes to these two slave owners?
Yes 19 12.93%
No 128 87.07%
Voters: 147. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-21-2017, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Richmond,VA
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Did Breitbart or Fox say that this should be today's conservative talking point? How many threads can we have covering the same tired non-topic?

How many programming hours from the leftist media can we have bashing Trump?
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Old 08-21-2017, 01:41 PM
 
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No, unless they broke a law? Last time I checked it was legal. Morally wrong sure but legal at the time.
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Old 08-21-2017, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Texas
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No, unless they broke a law? Last time I checked it was legal. Morally wrong sure but legal at the time.
Kidnapping was legal?
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Old 08-21-2017, 05:07 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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The whole country should be given back to the Native Americans.
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Old 08-21-2017, 05:07 PM
 
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Should we remove Thomas Jefferson and George Washington memorials, tributes and statues, including their images on Mount Rushmore, since each owned more than 300 slaves?
Will be interesting when they get around to promoting this, and begin tearing down monuments to both.

At that moment I truly think the majority will have had enough.

Interesting indeed.
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Old 08-21-2017, 05:47 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default The devil's in the details

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Should we remove Thomas Jefferson and George Washington memorials, tributes and statues, including their images on Mount Rushmore, since each owned more than 300 slaves?

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Will be interesting when they get around to promoting this, and begin tearing down monuments to both.

At that moment I truly think the majority will have had enough.

Interesting indeed.
Nah, Washington owned 123 slaves, I think the number was (see earlier in this thread). His wife had the use of another set (from her first marriage, she was widowed), & they leased another 30 or 40. & Washington left provisions in his will to manumit his slaves - which his widow did a year after his death.

Jefferson's slave numbers were up & down, his finances were a mess. That's why he said he never manumitted more than a handful of slaves - he was usually just breaking even, & couldn't afford to lose all those assets @ once.

& no one is seriously talking about changing Mt. Rushmore nor any other monuments & etc. - that seems to me to just be alcohol or some other recreational drug of choice talking. The only monuments being talked about are those to Confederate leadership, which mostly went up immediately following Reconstruction, as the Jim Crow laws took hold throughout the South.
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Old 08-21-2017, 08:54 PM
 
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The whole country should be given back to the Native Americans.

for what? when they had it they were fighting, killing, stealing, conquering and practicing slavery against the other 1,000 Native tribes......is not like they were running this land with the highest morality and ethics.

and I'm not impressed how they have managed their reservation lands either and you want to give the whole Nation to them? LOL
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:05 PM
 
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The only monuments being talked about are those to Confederate leadership, which mostly went up immediately following Reconstruction, as the Jim Crow laws took hold throughout the South.


under reconstruction it wasn't allowed to openly talk about the Confederate and the people of the South who died in the Civil War in the open ...it had nothing to do about Jim Crow.


it just after the civil war the feds had the rope tight in the South and censorship was applied. I guess the North was afraid that the South would rebel again.....so the first thing you do is destroy their economy so they would be dependent on the Federal government and then during reconstruction (some call it re-education like Vietnam did after 1975) you place prohibition in the South on free speech and dissent.

Once the Feds loosen the tightrope after reconstruction, the locals in the South could display and freely speak about the Confederacy and honor the brave soldiers that gave the ultimate sacrifice.
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Old 06-21-2020, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Thought this thread deserved a bump, considering the current climate.

I recommend having a read through the old comments, for a glimpse into the past and the predictions which were made at the time.
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