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I think Hurricane Harvey's message has been there are many more good and kind people in this country who care about fellow Americans than there are malcontents and misanthropes.
I worded my response to you different in original post, because I see what you meant in terms of predictions of storms by NOAA (but it's not based on climate science, just like weather isn't, only a yearly forecast, based on short term conditions)) but it still doesn't dispute what scientists are predicting about how climate change will affect these storms in terms of making them more intense and unpredictable.
But no, climate scientists in general have not predicted more hurricanes, that's a false talking point created by deniers.
The thinking goes, that if you claim storms will be more intense then by that very logic, more tropical depressions will become a CAT 1 hurricane
I think Hurricane Harvey's message has been there are many more good and kind people in this country who care about fellow Americans than there are malcontents and misanthropes.
I concur. The response by government agencies (local, state, Fed) has been excellent. Also, the response from fellow American citizens has also been superb. Let's recognize the positives for once.
Man Made Climate Change is still a theory that many want to use to increase taxes, and fees on fossil fuel energy use. We already give enough money to government. This is an economy killer. Fossil fuel, by far, still powers the Earth. In the U.S. we have vast supplies of Natural Gas, Oil, and Coal. We should use that to keep us energy independent. Wind, and solar are still a JOKE.
The temperature of the water did not affect the amount of rainfall as much as the circulation pattern of Harvey itself. As the air passed over the gulf it picked up as much moisture as the air could hold. The winds whipping up the gulf into choppy waves helped. Then the moisture dropped on land because there was too much for the air to hold without more gulf water and waves to feed it. Anybody who does not live near the Gulf but has visited it in the summer notices how humid the air is in that region. Do you think it would not be even more humid over the Gulf itself?
By the time the air moved around to the west and back over the gulf again, it was drier and had more potential for sucking more water out of the gulf. Rinse repeat for about 5 days and you get record rainfall.
Most major floods anywhere in the country were the result of stalled systems dumping more water than the ground could hold. As long as there were weather patterns that fed moisture into the system, the rain kept falling. You will sometimes see major rainfall in West Virginia with storms that are continuously being fed with moisture from the Gulf of Mexico. It depends on how the winds are blowing.
The amount of moisture in Harvey was a direct result of warmer Oceans, the Gulf of Mexico warmed by around 2 Deg F over the last few decades. Higher ocean temperatures mean more moisture is present in these tropical depressions. There is a natural variability in climate, some systems stall while others move on but the amount of moisture is dramatically increasing in these types of events. A few inches of rain used to be significant, South Florida around Cape Coral just got close to 20 inches.
When Hurricane Matthew moved over North Carolina and went inland it also dropped 20 inches and caused massive destruction and it was moving rather rapidly.
The amount of moisture in Harvey was a direct result of warmer Oceans, the Gulf of Mexico warmed by around 2 Deg F over the last few decades. Higher ocean temperatures mean more moisture is present in these tropical depressions. There is a natural variability in climate, some systems stall while others move on but the amount of moisture is dramatically increasing in these types of events. A few inches of rain used to be significant, South Florida around Cape Coral just got close to 20 inches.
When Hurricane Matthew moved over North Carolina and went inland it also dropped 20 inches and caused massive destruction and it was moving rather rapidly.
Imagine if the storms in FL and NC had stalled like Harvey did. Do you think the rainfall amounts would have been less? I think they would have been more comparable to what Harvey dropped. You cannot keep ignoring the fact that Harvey stalled in pretty much one place.
The Gulf of Mexico must have been mighty hot in the year of 1900. That's when the Galveston Flood killed at least 6000 people and possibly up to 12,000. Hurricane winds reached 145 miles an hour.
I have thousands of peer-reviewed academic journals on my side.
Don't pretend that you have read thousands of peer-reviewed academic journals. Almost none of the most ardent global warming alarmists have ever read anything or done any research, nor are they qualified to have an opinion on the subject.
No major hurricanes hit the US in 9 years and for 9 years it was quite from the liberals and climate change people who were so convinced this was the ticket to getting people to believe them was hurricanes were stronger etc etc etc. Hurricanes are not stronger more people live in these areas causing more destruction and we have a cable news network.
Now if you put any major storm in texas, or new orleans they are terrible in dealing with water, because of the way the states are below sea level and or flat. In 1600 if nobody lived there do you know what would have happened a few trees would be missing and that is it and nobody would care. Because we have millions of people living there and 24/7 coverage on hurricanes climate changers are busy at work telling us the world is ending and we need green credits.
This has been happening on the planet Earth since it began. Science has shown the changes on earth. It is a living planet.
Just because the egotistical human race thinks this is the biggest in history does not mean that it is.
I believe humans are carelessly and negatively impacting and polluting the earth and messing with the circle of life.
But natural disasters is what this earth has and will continue to do.
Once instance rising sea levels may be happening is that we have active plates. And mountains are still forming by plates moving and colliding pushing up, this a mountain. That land that I pushed up in some areas fills in with water. Rising the sea level.
What you say is not in dispute, but please don't confuse the ignorant by mixing the two ideas. Plate tectonics is a very slow process. Of course we've always had natural disasters and it is a living planet.
So let's not kill it.
This quote of yours is true and can and should be changed....
"I believe humans are carelessly and negatively impacting and polluting the earth and messing with the circle of life."
Look at the charts showing the rise in CO2 over this century and ever since man has been burning fossil fuels. This is indisputable.
This is what Harvey indicates and this is what we should be looking at in terms of lessons.
LOL
We have what, 200 years of data on this stuff, but the planet has been here for billions of years.
As much as our arrogant left wants to believe otherwise.....we know almost nothing about what is happening. Maybe the planet is warming up. Maybe the storms are related. Maybe they are not.
12 years between any major storm activity. Some of those years.....we had no hurricanes at all.
WE.DON'T.KNOW.
You don't seem to know but the scientists do. Look up how these trends are measured - in one instance- by ice cores at the poles.
Yes, the planet has changed over geological time and epochs- this is NOT THE ISSUE. Look at what has been happening rapidly in this century!
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