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Old 09-25-2017, 07:40 PM
 
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You made coffee come out my nose... THAT is funny!




Maybe he's looking for a job in Canada's military, he does have experience after all.
I think they can enlist their own fruit loops.
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:35 AM
 
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This is why smart persons get lawyered up and or otherwise do everything possible not to be "processed". Once your fingerprints are in the federal/FBI database life becomes more complicated.


Then again as military Manning's prints were likely on file already regardless of the arrest/conviction, no?
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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This is why smart persons get lawyered up and or otherwise do everything possible not to be "processed". Once your fingerprints are in the federal/FBI database life becomes more complicated.


Then again as military Manning's prints were likely on file already regardless of the arrest/conviction, no?
With the amount of media attention Chelsea received she couldn't enter unnoticed.

She has some serious convictions. You can't avoid being "processed". If you cross the border you are "processed". When you are arrested you are "processed". A lawyer can't do a damn thing about her situation. When you get fingerprinted it follows you for the rest of your life. Edited to add: unless you can get it expunged which often takes years and many more in Chelsea's case.

And all y'all need to stop with the transgender thing. She was denied entry because of her convictions, not because she's a transgender.

Major booboo on her part for even thinking she could just waltz on through to Canada. If she had half a brain she'd have requested asylum immediately at the border before presenting documents to enter if she really wanted to move there.

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Old 09-29-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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I guess Canada doesnt view Hillary as a criminal as she is in Toronto selling her book =
Hillary Clinton thrills Toronto crowd with part feminist, part activist talk | National Post

Also have Obama in town =Barack Obama in Toronto to give speech - Canada - CBC News
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Old 09-29-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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OTTAWA, Ontario — Chelsea Manning said Monday she was denied entry into Canada because of her criminal record in the United States.


The transgender woman was known as Bradley Manning when she was convicted in 2013 of leaking a trove of classified documents. She was released after serving seven years of a 35-year sentence, which was commuted by President Barack Obama in his final days in office.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.f867e06fabf0

He/she can always go to Nigeria.
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Old 09-29-2017, 06:23 PM
 
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With the amount of media attention Chelsea received she couldn't enter unnoticed.

She has some serious convictions. You can't avoid being "processed". If you cross the border you are "processed". When you are arrested you are "processed". A lawyer can't do a damn thing about her situation. When you get fingerprinted it follows you for the rest of your life. Edited to add: unless you can get it expunged which often takes years and many more in Chelsea's case.

And all y'all need to stop with the transgender thing. She was denied entry because of her convictions, not because she's a transgender.

Major booboo on her part for even thinking she could just waltz on through to Canada. If she had half a brain she'd have requested asylum immediately at the border before presenting documents to enter if she really wanted to move there.


Here in NYC NYPD along with four of the five DAs have stopped blindly following procedures where *everyone* arrested in put through the system/processed. They are going back to the old ways of issuing desk appearance tickets for "minor" offenses and so forth.


If you can get a good enough mouthpiece or whatever between time of arrest and before being taken in for processing, yes you can avoid fingerprinting. Of course much will depend upon the nature of crime allegedly committed.


One of the reasons African American and Latino/Hispanic males have issues with all sorts of things including finding employment is on average they have criminal records. But when you look at the arrest patterns/charges there are plenty of small low level offenses that whites often get a pass. Things like open container, weed (smoking or possessing small amounts), etc..
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Old 09-29-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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Are folks here really interested in discussing Canada's policies for allowing people with criminal convictions in other countries to enter, or is it just the usual suspects wanting to misgender Chelsea Manning for their own anti-transgender purposes?
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