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I'm no fan of Kasich but those who worship at the altar of Trump claiming he's a RINO is beyond absurd. In reality, I don't even know what Trump is in terms of policy because he pretty much has no principles and will flip to any position he thinks will get him the most applause. I would have said a legislative win, but that doesn't actually seem to be the case - it's not just his failure to accomplish anything legislatively, but I really think he doesn't much care one way or the other, he is just happy when he gets any positive attention. But looking at Kasich's policy positions and record - speaking as a Liberal, I shudder in horror at the idea of him being elected President, we are on the opposite side of pretty much every issue.
Given that Trump's popularity continues to decline and it was merely a fluke of the electoral college that put him in office in the first place, I think that a third party candidate with true conservative bona fides could make a strong run for 2020. Maybe a Kasich/McMullin ticket?
I'm no fan of Kasich but those who worship at the altar of Trump claiming he's a RINO is beyond absurd. In reality, I don't even know what Trump is in terms of policy because he pretty much has no principles and will flip to any position he thinks will get him the most applause. I would have said a legislative win, but that doesn't actually seem to be the case - it's not just his failure to accomplish anything legislatively, but I really think he doesn't much care one way or the other, he is just happy when he gets any positive attention. But looking at Kasich's policy positions and record - speaking as a Liberal, I shudder in horror at the idea of him being elected President, we are on the opposite side of pretty much every issue.
Given that Trump's popularity continues to decline and it was merely a fluke of the electoral college that put him in office in the first place, I think that a third party candidate with true conservative bona fides could make a strong run for 2020. Maybe a Kasich/McMullin ticket?
Unfortunately, a third party led by Kasich could also re-elect Trump, by allowing him to remain competitive with his solid base of 40% or so. He’s not likely to win the national popular vote, but a third party pulling double digits would lead to something similar to 2016; a Trump win with an even lower national percentage than the 46% he received last time.
Not sure what planet you're living on or perhaps you don't really know what a conservative is. It's more than being fiscally conservative. A conservative would NEVER support open borders and amnesty for illegals which Kasich proudly does.
He's a middle of the road Republican. Conservative on some issues, liberal on others. He's hardly one of the most conservative republicans in the country. I guess if you're a liberal leaning far left, he looks like a staunch conservative, but you're wrong about that.
True conservatives would never champion wholesale environmental destruction, yet that is a leading platform of today's Republican Party, and this is a massive change from decades past. E.g., Nixon created the EPA. Trump for most of his campaign called for the EPA's abolishment.
Nothing is more conservative than conserving the environment.
With the exception of Libertarians in the Republican Party, Republicans today often have no problems invading the privacy rights of women, even to the extent of wanting to ban the morning after pill.
Now we have the Congressional Republicans with the approval of our Republican President proposing increasing the long-term deficit by $1 trillion dollars or more to deliver tax cuts to the most wealthy Americans.
Personally, I lean libertarian and was done with Kasich once he got caught telling a bunch of Republican donors that wanting to cut the welfare state was unchristian. That's not a policy or tactical disagreement that can be worked through, that's an insult. I think every other libertarian and a lot of down-the-line conservatives who heard that felt similar. Since then, he's repeatedly criticized the Trump administration and its supporters - who were the plurality of Republican primary voters - in a tone that implies they are bad people, not just that he disagrees with them on policy. He's insulted half the Republican base by now.
There is a general purging of RINOs going on that is more policy oriented, however Kasich individually has been caught up in it not because of policy (the Medicaid expansion put him on thin ice but other Republican governors who did it haven't caught the same level of blow-back) but because he has not been a team player and has actively and publicly gone out of his way to insult about half of the Republican coalition during and since his campaign for the Presidential candidacy.
No one expects a Bush Republican to lead the way on shrinking the welfare state or getting illegal immigration under control, but they need to not actively work against the rest of the party on things they care about or worse, insult them for it. You can't disrespect people today and lead them tomorrow.
Unfortunately, a third party led by Kasich could also re-elect Trump, by allowing him to remain competitive with his solid base of 40% or so. He’s not likely to win the national popular vote, but a third party pulling double digits would lead to something similar to 2016; a Trump win with an even lower national percentage than the 46% he received last time.
I'm not sure that 40% would hold with Kasich in the mix - I think there is a decent percentage even of that 40% that considers Trump better than a Democratic alternative but would definitely flip to Kasich or some other less tainted Conservative candidate.
I actually would be more concerned about Kasich pulling voters from the Democratic side because he's managed to establish a reputation as a moderate, which is far from the truth, of course. But I think there are people who lean left and would vote for a Democrat against a GOP candidate who could be flipped to a third party if Kasich were falsely allowed to claim he's moderate.
Hopefully whoever runs, the media will do a better job of vetting them ahead of time instead of giving Trump (and Bernie Sanders as well) pretty much a free ride.
Just look up the (D) platform from 1996 when Bill Clinton was re-elected compared to what it is today. It's as if the socialist/communists have taken over the party if you were to fair compare the two. Presidential leaders of the (D) party like JFK or even Bill Clinton couldn't run today as a (D) and expect to get the nomination.
If you think the current Democratic platform is "socialist," then please DO NOT view the New Deal Democratic platform from 1932. As Trump would say, "It will make your head spin!"
Personally, I lean libertarian and was done with Kasich once he got caught telling a bunch of Republican donors that wanting to cut the welfare state was unchristian...
I never knew he said that. Good for him! ... I approve.
Stop. You guys just put Trump in office so excuse me if I don't buy your BS about who has proper conservative bonafides.
Again, if you guys want Roy Moore to be the mainstream of the Republican Party, forget it. We aren't about to let you foist that crap on us without some blood on the apron.
What does Trump being in office have to do with conservatism? Trump was never a conservative and everyone knows that. The option was Hillary and even Trump looked half way decent compared to her stand on open borders and race baiting every chance she had. It was either Trump or another 8 years of a female version of Obama. Now a female conservative would have been elected easily and I would have been the first to vote for her.
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