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Old 10-02-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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Thats your own personal viewpoint. I don't own any guns, and it certainly isn't some power trip that I think people should be able to legally own them. You are just projecting so it makes it easier for you to demonize those who have different opinions than your own.
I demonize an opinion that states all people should have access to as many type and as powerful a weapon as they want. Yes, I think it's stupid and careless and in most cases driven by people who have power issues.

The type of people who claim Sandy Hook was a false flag to take their beloved guns. Yes, I demonize those people. While they themselves may never raise their guns against another person, their obsessive hobby puts us all in danger.
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Question: Why won't Trump label this as a terrorist attack. He is always so quick to label these when an obvious Muslim is the killer. Why not now?
Because it would upset the narrative on the right that the primary threats we face are from brown people and Muslims when the statistics show far more Americans are killed by white people and Christians.
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns .
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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Reportedly he set off the smoke alarms with his shooting so that's how they knew what room to go to.
Still the SWAT teams had to be staged at the hotel for the concert or was "SWAT" just the beat cops doing their duty.
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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I don't have the actual statistics on this computer, but will post them when I get access to them.

And I was specifically addressing "mass murders", which has nothing to do with the article you linked. And the reason the gun grabbers come out of the woodwork to demand we follow Australia's lead.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/w...-shooting.html


Here is some statistics for you. Clear enough?
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:48 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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The majority is hand made, but the barrel probably isn't. They probably get those from a person with a lathe making illegal barrels. Machining such barrels has been done for over a hundred years. You could probably get a lathe that would do the trick for $1,000.
Good luck with that.
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:48 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Were those all murders?
yes

so stricter gun laws DO have an impact.

nj had fewer murders than Nevada with four times the population.

plus we have those infamous cities called Camden and Newark.
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:48 PM
 
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I demonize an opinion that states all people should have access to as many type and as powerful a weapon as they want. Yes, I think it's stupid and careless and in most cases driven by people who have power issues.

The type of people who claim Sandy Hook was a false flag to take their beloved guns. Yes, I demonize those people. While they themselves may never raise their guns against another person, their obsessive hobby puts us all in danger.
You are talking about a number significantly smaller than 1% for those items in red.

As for an "obsessive" hobby, thats just your opinion, you are using the extreme fringes to try and rationalize the entire group.
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:49 PM
 
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For that same token, same in that mass shooting. If I can shoot one round a second with a bolt gun there's still going to be a pile of bodies. Plus, most new bolt guns or pump guns come with a box mag or are easily converted to one. Which, I'd kind of expect a criminal to exploit even if semi's were banned.

There are many Utube videos comparing magazine capacity and rate of fire.

You aren't going to get the same rate of fire for any length of time for a bolt action vs full auto if that's what this guy ended up having or even semi auto with larg capacity. Run a short test and the rates may be close but stretch it to 5 minutes and it wouldn't be
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:49 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Well folks, I'm signing off this thread ...it has become too long, and without "threaded view" (which they seem to disable on these long threads) it's too hard to follow and too hard to navigate.
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