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Old 10-04-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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Trump only had one pardon though..Sheriff Joe.
Is Sheriff Joe now connected to the Russians ?
My understanding is that this is being looked at in the context of the Russian investigation. They probably just want to be aware of any possible scenarios and what power the President holds in those scenarios (such as the President pardoning himself, or anyone who might be up for charges related to the investigation).

I don't think anyone is questioning Trump's ability to pardon Sheriff Joe.
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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My understanding is that this is being looked at in the context of the Russian investigation. They probably just want to be aware of any possible scenarios and what power the President holds in those scenarios (such as the President pardoning himself, or anyone who might be up for charges related to the investigation).

I don't think anyone is questioning Trump's ability to pardon Sheriff Joe.
What they are likely looking at is whether this was a way to send a message to others that if they hung tight, they would get pardon.
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:23 PM
 
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What they are likely looking at is whether this was a way to send a message to others that if they hung tight, they would get pardon.
Right.
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:38 PM
 
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It could be that Rs pardon each other.

Ford pardoned Nixon.

President Bush pardoned former defense secretary Caspar W. Weinberger and five other former government officials involved in the Iran-contra affair because "it was time for the country to move on."

"Independent counsel Lawrence E. Walsh, who had prosecuted all six of those Bush pardoned, angrily declared that Bush's action meant that "the Iran-contra coverup, which has continued for more than six years, has now been completed."

Bush Pardons Weinberger in Iran-Contra Affair

Rs seem to believe that they are above the rule of law.

Mueller is about to put that to the test.
Interesting

Any examples of where the (D's) have made similar pardons, or is your view too partisan to know?

The bottom line is that Mueller should look into everything relevant regarding his mandate, anticipating possible future actions and trying to counter them is not part of his mandate. Presidential pardons have held up under scrutiny from both sides and will not be decided by a SP charged with investigating something totally unrelated.

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Old 10-04-2017, 05:59 PM
 
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An investigation in search of a crime. What if they uncover the Hillary campaign's crimes instead? Since everyone on Mueller's team used to be affiliated with the Clintons, I'm sure we can guess...
Not true, try again.The Senate confirmed a few things this am.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...htmlstory.html
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Old 10-05-2017, 05:37 AM
 
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Trump only had one pardon though..Sheriff Joe.
Is Sheriff Joe now connected to the Russians ?
What a strange post. You quoted a post discussing the investigation and how there is nothing wrong with it going where the evidence takes it. This has nothing to do with Sheriff Joe and nobody is claiming Joe had anything to do with Russia.
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Old 10-05-2017, 05:53 AM
 
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Interesting.

Any examples of where the (D's) have made similar pardons, or is your view too partisan to know?

...

I am not aware of a D President pardoning those in D administrations.

But to be fair, Ds have not yet had anything similar to Watergate or Iran-Contra, so naturally, they've had fewer convictions.

If you know of any similar pardons, now would be the time to speak up.
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Old 10-05-2017, 08:32 AM
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Why doesn't Meuller produce the final report:

"Indictments against Flynt, Manaford. Not enough evidence against Trump."

I'll accept bets from any liberal disagreeing with this conclusion.
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:05 AM
 
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Why doesn't Meuller produce the final report:

"Indictments against Flynt, Manaford. Not enough evidence against Trump."

I'll accept bets from any liberal disagreeing with this conclusion.
There's also Don Jr., Carter Page, Rogers Stone, Kushner, ...

I doubt any liberal will accept your bet as Presidents don't get indicted.

They get impeached.

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Old 10-05-2017, 09:07 AM
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There's also Don Jr., Carter Page, Rogers Stone, Kushner, ...

I doubt any liberal will accept your bet as Presidents don't get indicted.

They get impeached.

Only Manafort and Flynt will be indicted. No one else.

Want to bet?
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