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Old 10-13-2017, 11:48 AM
 
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Trump continue to keep promises.

This time he refuses re-certify the appeasement deal that Obama & Kerry made with the Iranian Dictators. Now congress will be forced to deal with it.
“In the event we are not able to reach a solution working with Congress and our allies, the agreement will be terminated,” he said. “It is under continuous review and our participation can be canceled by me as president at any time.”
Trump decertifies Iran nuclear deal, slaps sanctions on IRGC in broadside at radical regime.

Trump still winning

#MAGA

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Old 10-13-2017, 02:43 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Trump continue to keep promises.

This time he refuses re-certify the appeasement deal that Obama & Kerry made with the Iranian Dictators. Now congress will be forced to deal with it.
“In the event we are not able to reach a solution working with Congress and our allies, the agreement will be terminated,” he said. “It is under continuous review and our participation can be canceled by me as president at any time.”
Trump decertifies Iran nuclear deal, slaps sanctions on IRGC in broadside at radical regime.

Trump still winning

#MAGA

The Iran nuclear deal stops Iran from enriching uranium beyond 5% and creating weapons grade uranium, the Iran deal also cuts back on Iran constructing new centrifuges and enrichment facilities.

If Trump abolishes the deal how will he stop Iran from enriching uranium and constructing new centrifuges and enrichment facilities?

20 questions about the Iran nuclear deal - CNN


And the Iran nuclear deal was also crafted by the United Kingdom, Russia, France, China, Germany and the European Union. And all of those countries are staying with the Iran nuclear deal.

How can US republicans understand nuclear deals better than the United Kingdom, Russia, France, China, Germany, the European Union and America's democrats combined?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_n...deal_framework
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.43aff5e19a37


Could you explain how the Iran deal is flawed and how Trump will stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons?
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Does it really matter if the US is not in the treaty considering Iran got their money back in actual cash wrapped up on big pallets and delivered to them in the middle of the night.
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:15 PM
 
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Could you explain how the Iran deal is flawed and how Trump will stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons?
You will first to have to explain how it stops them. Even if Iran is in full compliance the only thing this does is kick the can down the road. A very simialr deal was struck with NK in 90's by Clinton, where is it we are at now with that?
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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Does it really matter if the US is not in the treaty considering Iran ......
Yes is it does, if the US slaps sanction on Iran any business/state doing business with Iran will find themselves making the choice between Iran the US. Any multi national corporations with operations inside this country will have absolutely no choice but to comply, Airbus for example.
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:28 PM
 
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You will first to have to explain how it stops them. Even if Iran is in full compliance the only thing this does is kick the can down the road. A very simialr deal was struck with NK in 90's by Clinton, where is it we are at now with that?
There's really nothing to explain here. If you don't understand it, that's on you.

You can try reading more about it: BBC, you can try listening to the 5 World powers saying that it's working exactly as intended. Or you can keep doing what you're doing, believing a lying, thieving, buffoon.
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Denver
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The Iran nuclear deal stops Iran from enriching uranium beyond 5% and creating weapons grade uranium, the Iran deal also cuts back on Iran constructing new centrifuges and enrichment facilities.

If Trump abolishes the deal how will he stop Iran from enriching uranium and constructing new centrifuges and enrichment facilities?

20 questions about the Iran nuclear deal - CNN


And the Iran nuclear deal was also crafted by the United Kingdom, Russia, France, China, Germany and the European Union. And all of those countries are staying with the Iran nuclear deal.

How can US republicans understand nuclear deals better than the United Kingdom, Russia, France, China, Germany, the European Union and America's democrats combined?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_n...deal_framework
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.43aff5e19a37


Could you explain how the Iran deal is flawed and how Trump will stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons?
Whoa. You mean someone with knowledge on something shut down WaldoKitty? So much for MAGA, right? lol
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:35 PM
 
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The sanctions failed. That's why the agreement with Iran occurred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...s_against_Iran

Almost all of Trump's points were irelevant or wrong. The speech can be disregarded as babble. There was no similar deal with North Korea, only a deal to provide humanitarian relief and build two light-water reactors for civilian use in exchange for cessation of the atomic weapons research. The agreement with NK was essentially a delaying tactic by the US. They didn't start construction on the first reactor until they were supposed to have already been delivered. The US unilaterally pulled out of the agreement and the projects in 2003.
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:40 PM
 
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Strange that leaders like Putin thought it was a good arrangement. However, Obama was for it, so Trump must be against it.

As I have noted before, those that created the 1979 revolution are dying out. Iran is bursting full of young people, eager to embrace Western ways. I recall an article by an Iranian living in Tehran who said that out of a city of 6 million people, only about 100,000 attend Mosque on Fridays. He had said that those that go to Mosque and yell 'Death to America' are a very small number, with the rest of the people ignoring them.

With time, Iran will again fully join the community of nations. No doubt, the present government is still hostile and supports terror groups. However, things are slowly but surely changing. Leaders look down the road.

Iran will be sure to do business with the other signatory countries. Our oil companies will be shut out of the vast Iranian oil market. Boeing will not be able to sell planes to Iran (Iran recently purchased some 100's of planes from Airbus). China, Russia and the others will invest in Iran, trade with Iran, and form bonds with Iran, while Trump supporters cheer: although they are mistaken in what they are cheering.

It is, indeed, 'sad'. Our country shall develop the reputation of not keeping agreements.
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:41 PM
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He's not a popular president and Iran knows this and will use it as leverage in their response. Negotiating anything else will be worse.
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