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I actually used to be a conservative libertarian type but experiences in the working world and reading alot about history have convinced me that socialism is the moral choice for the majority of people.
Socialism and moral together is oxymoron.
Nothing about the socialism is moral, just or fair. Socialism promotes the two worst traits of human: jealousy and violence.
This is one of the dumbest Op's I've ever see. If no rich person worked to earn their wealth, where did the get it? Rich people either earned their wealth or inherited it, which is completely legal and fair.
I actually used to be a conservative libertarian type but experiences in the working world and reading alot about history have convinced me that socialism is the moral choice for the majority of people.
Socialist/Communist regimes murdered more than 100 million people in the 20th Century, alone. How on earth is that the "moral choice?"
Precisely. Just made the comment about the 100+ million murdered people in the 20th Century, alone.
As of 2011, academic consensus has not been achieved on causes of large scale killings by states, including by states governed by communists...
The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.
These governments called themselves communist, in reality they weren't, they were authoritative regime. Every thing came from a centralized power, nothing communist or even socialist about them.
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Nothing about the socialism is moral, just or fair. Socialism promotes the two worst traits of human: jealousy and violence.
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Socialists are much WORSE than the devil.
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That is disgusting! Socialists are the worst kind of human beings!
I wonder if people even think for a minute before responding.
Socialism doesn't mean taking taxes from the rich and given it to the poor. This is a lie spread by rich people and ignorant people easily accept it. Socialism means eliminating wage labor so people sell the product of their work not their time. This way the money will not flow to the rich people, but stay in the hand of the people who create services and products. In other way, the wealth would be distributed more evenly among society and not decided by how much money you have.
Human being are social by nature. Look at how a family develops. Children are raised with love and barely anything is asked from them. Couples cooperate with their work and money. Extended family help each other.
The reason this cannot be done at a society level is because of tribal and national ideas are strongly past down from generation to generation and the majority of people can't look past it.
Socialist/Communist regimes murdered more than 100 million people in the 20th Century, alone. How on earth is that the "moral choice?"
And capitalism murders millions every day because of hunger problems. I am not a authoritarian leftist by the way I support democracy and a strong welfare state like what Norway does.
And capitalism murders millions every day because of hunger problems. I am not a authoritarian leftist by the way I support democracy and a strong welfare state like what Norway does.
Please name one hunger problem created by capitalism.
As of 2011, academic consensus has not been achieved on causes of large scale killings by states, including by states governed by communists...
The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.
These governments called themselves communist, in reality they weren't, they were authoritative regime. Every thing came from a centralized power, nothing communist or even socialist about them.
As a person who used to live in a communist/socialist country, I can assure you if you dare to say they were not socialism, you would be promptly executed. If you are lucky, your family might be spared.
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I wonder if people even think for a minute before responding.
Socialism doesn't mean taking taxes from the rich and given it to the poor. This is a lie spread by rich people and ignorant people easily accept it. Socialism means eliminating wage labor so people sell the product of their work not their time. This way the money will not flow to the rich people, but stay in the hand of the people who create services and products. In other way, the wealth would be distributed more evenly among society and not decided by how much money you have.
Human being are social by nature. Look at how a family develops. Children are raised with love and barely anything is asked from them. Couples cooperate with their work and money. Extended family help each other.
The reason this cannot be done at a society level is because of tribal and national ideas are strongly past down from generation to generation and the majority of people can't look past it.
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