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Old 11-09-2017, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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Originally Posted by boneyard1962 View Post
The same way the left looks in the mirror after defending a predator like Bill Clinton.
If Moore did it I hope he is crucified in every imaginable way. The word allegedly however, means not proven.
OK, got it. I appreciate the clarification.

So, what would it take to "prove" to you that the Moore allegations are true? I'm guessing you'd need at least the same level of evidence that proves Bill Clinton is a sexual predator, right? S-o-o-o, Moore would need to be convicted in a court of law, just like Clinton, right?

Oh. Wait a minute... Clinton was never convicted of any crime that would justify an accusation of being a "sexual predator."

OK, so then obviously it wouldn't be necessary for Moore to be convicted of child molestation. You'd settle for him simply admitting that he had done it, just as Clinton admitted to being... what did you accuse him of? Oh, yeah - a "predator."

But wait! Not so fast! I just remembered - Clinton never confessed to anything other than having sexual realtionships with two adult women over the course of several decades of his adult life. But surely, that doesn't make a man a "predator", does it? If that's your definition of a predator, then I guess you must consider 95% of all adult males to be sexual predators.

Face it. Like most conservatives, you're applying a blatant double standard. Allegations against Bill Clinton are "proof" that he is a predator, but allegations against Moore mean nothing to you at all.

As i said - typical conservative hypocrisy.



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Originally Posted by Old Town FFX View Post
It's amusing, and sad, that so many want to make it a Right v. Left issue when in reality, it's a Right v. WRONG issue. WHo cares WHAT little letter is after their name, that doesn't make it any better/worse,
Well, it's both. On a fundamental level, you're right - ithe basic issue is simply one of right and wrong.

But where it becomes a left vs. right issue is when the conservatives start actually defending child molestation because since one of them did it, it's no big deal. That's where it becomes a left vs. right issue.


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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
Especially when the victim is a 14-year old girl, for christ's sake.

What kind of amoral hypocrites would try to excuse this?

 
Old 11-09-2017, 03:27 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas View Post
I have a problem believing people when they makes claims that something happened decades ago and cannot provide factual proof to prove their claim. Anyone can make claims, but that does not make it true. Not saying her claim is untrue, but if she wanted justice she should have reported it then. The statute of limitations has run out so what would the motive be to bring it up now?
A poll was released yesterday that shows the Democrat in this race is 11 points behind. The Washington Post has endorsed the Democrat in this election.

Judge Moore has been a candidate in four hotly-contested statewide political contests, twice as a gubernatorial candidate and twice as a candidate for chief justice. He has been a three-time candidate for local office, and he has been a national figure in two ground-breaking, judicial fights over religious liberty and traditional marriage. After over 40 years of public service, if any of these allegations were true, they would have been made public long before now ...... except that his opponent is 11 points behind.

Let's see the proof and explain the timing. We have seen this movie before - Women were coming out of the woodwork right before Donald Trump was elected and then all the "allegations" went POOF.
 
Old 11-09-2017, 03:31 PM
 
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I’m not a Trump defender at all. Some of the criticism and outrage is well deserved. Other things are not. But if you vilify one person for his/her behavior and give another a pass for the same behavior because it’s “your guy”, you’re a hypocrite.

All the posters saying “it’s the Bible thumpers, it’s the conservatives that rape and abuse women” are full of crap. Look at Hollywood. The elite liberals that were outraged against Trump for the way he treats women turn out to be worse.

The point is that politicss don’t play a part with people who abuse women. It’s not because they’re liberal or conservative, it’s because they’re scumbags. If Moore did it, he should step down. But don’t get all outraged If someone brings up Clinton. He was a decent President that was a scumbag.

Maybe the proper response is “yeah, Clinton was a womanizer and abuser. Now what? It doesn’t change a thing about Moore.”
I'm not claiming it's only one side. There are definitely some perverted people on the Dem/Liberal side. The reason conservatives/Republicans get called out, is because they claim to be the family values/self-righteous religious moral brigade.

Roy Moore wants gays imprisoned/executed, but he molested a 14 year old. Proves he has absolutely zero moral authority and he's a massive hypocrite.

We see this constantly with the anti-gay crowd. The more they rail against gays, the more likely they are to get caught in some gay scandal. I have absolutely no doubt that Pence will get caught in a scandal like that eventually.
 
Old 11-09-2017, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
They defending Clinton flying around with Jeffrey Epstein even..
this has nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein or Bill Clinton, maybe you could start a new thread about them rather than try to hijack this one?
 
Old 11-09-2017, 03:34 PM
 
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Especially when the victim is a 14-year old girl, for christ's sake.

What kind of amoral hypocrites would try to excuse this?
Republicans and Trump supporters. In fact an Alabama official said it's no big deal.
 
Old 11-09-2017, 03:38 PM
 
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It won't matter to right wing Republicans. If it however had a been a 14 year old boy, his candidacy would be dead.
 
Old 11-09-2017, 03:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by dothetwist View Post
GOP Senators saying Moore should step aside are:
McConnell
Shelby
Flake
Gardner
And
John Mc Cain
David Perdue
Mike Lee
Steve Daines
 
Old 11-09-2017, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I'm just waiting for the R's to flock to this post and accuse it of being a smear job...
Highly likely it's a smear lie...where were all of these now moral Dems when Juanita Broaddrick was raped by Bill Clinton?
 
Old 11-09-2017, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Meanwhile, Moore is fundraising over the accusations: https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/928751289365876736

What an absolute scumbag.
 
Old 11-09-2017, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It won't matter to right wing Republicans. If it however had a been a 14 year old boy, his candidacy would be dead.
Yep.

Heard someone on Fox was comparing this to Joseph and Mary and the conception of Jesus. Umm..think they're forgetting something.
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