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Old 11-10-2017, 09:36 AM
 
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Why don't you ask Roy Moore?
So, typical leftist, why does the one being accused have to prove his innocence?

The accuser should have to prove what they say....

You do understand innocent until proven guilty? <<<<<Rhetorical BTW, we know you don't....

 
Old 11-10-2017, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Right. And speculation does not equal fact.

It bears repeating: The purpose/goal of our criminal jurisprudence system is not to find the "truth", but, rather, to force the Government to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, the likelihood that its charges are correct.
But opinion certainly matters during an election, that is the issue. Will the GOP and the voters decide that the girls stories have credibility, I do believe that will be the case. Really sad that some GOP members think the importance resides in not having a Democrat elected, not exactly the moral high ground.
 
Old 11-10-2017, 09:38 AM
 
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The Trump cult is on this very thread trying to shift blame and focus onto Democrats while providing cover for a pedophile. It's so disgusting, there really is no way to excuse any of it. It shows how sick many Trump supporters are in their cult like following of any and all Republicans.
What's disgusting is that you are calling a person a pedophile without ZERO evidence....why is that?
 
Old 11-10-2017, 09:38 AM
 
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Listen that case was a mess and rare compared to the number of rapes that happen every year

Do you think Brock turner should have just got 3 Months in jail for rape because he was a “good boy”?
You don't seem to know that it's not all that rare.

So, let me get this straight, you associate a person who wants proof of a crime with not wanting punishment for those who are convicted?
 
Old 11-10-2017, 09:39 AM
 
Location: California
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Obviously you don't understand the subtleties of what it means to be guilty and what it means to be found guilty by a court of law. One is an immutable fact and the other is the best judgement of the legal system, which can and does get things wrong. We will never know the former but are allowed to speculate especially as the latter will likely never be tested in this particular case.
Sure you say guilty without any evidence which in turn is just your opinion, actually to be guilty you must have evidence that proves you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt but lets not let the facts get in the way.
lets all hope you folks screaming guilty without any proof never find yourselves accused of anything you didn't do. You are allowed to have your own opinion but the fact still remains he is innocent until he is proven guilty.
 
Old 11-10-2017, 09:39 AM
 
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But opinion certainly matters during an election, that is the issue. Will the GOP and the voters decide that the girls stories have credibility, I do believe that will be the case. Really sad that some GOP members think the importance resides in not having a Democrat elected, not exactly the moral high ground.
He's been elected in AL before, why now?
 
Old 11-10-2017, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So, typical leftist, why does the one being accused have to prove his innocence?

The accuser should have to prove what they say....

You do understand innocent until proven guilty? <<<<<Rhetorical BTW, we know you don't....
I’m betting you weren’t a defender of Anthony Weiner before he was convicted. Interesting that he is in jail for much less although that was a conviction, not an allegation.
 
Old 11-10-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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I'm just waiting for the R's to flock to this post and accuse it of being a smear job...
Evidently these women did not come forward, the reporter followed up on old rumors and they turned out to be true.

The 14 year old in question has been voting Republican and had always been conflicted about reporting this episode in the past (even until now), so it never was an issue in his long political career. If it were up to her this embarrassing episode would still be buried.

Moore should have been on the Sex Offender Registry all of these years, just as my congressman Dennis 'poker' Hastert should have been.

So much for family values from these lecherous hypocrites.
 
Old 11-10-2017, 09:42 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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The burden of proof is on the one making the claim.
Yes, in a court of law. But we're dealing with the court of public opinion. And the only way Moore has of clearing his name is to take a polygraph and pass it. If I was accused of something I didn't do I would volunteer to take a polygraph in a nanosecond.
 
Old 11-10-2017, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So, typical leftist, why does the one being accused have to prove his innocence?

The accuser should have to prove what they say....

You do understand innocent until proven guilty? <<<<<Rhetorical BTW, we know you don't....
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He's been elected in AL before, why now?
Well he was a judge, that would likely not have turned out well. She saw him gaining national prominence and decided it was time up expose him.
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