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Old 11-13-2017, 03:16 AM
 
Location: SW Virginia
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Exactly.. The rest of the state contains 1/3rd the nations welfare recipients.. The OP wants to know why we dont do the same...

The haves, have and the have nots, never will.. and the left thinks thats fabulous while they stand there whining about income inequality and wealth distribution.

its weird
Both political parties are hypocrites. But the red states are governed by conservatives who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut. The sad part is a lot poor people from the red states vote republican. They vote against their financial interest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8OoKAezlA8
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Old 11-13-2017, 05:11 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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It is the larges, not strongest. CA has enough factors that it can get away with things that other states cannot. Being on the Pacific Ocean, Silicon Valley...
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Old 11-13-2017, 05:18 AM
 
Location: USA
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Red states don't want a strong economy - that would mean "poors" and non-whites can get good jobs, too.

Based upon the ignorant drivel posted by the far-right here and everywhere, what they basically want is a good job for THEM and THEIR friends and family - and that's it. They desperately need to have people in bad shape who they can smugly feel superior to and use as object lessons in "the problems with those people." Having people poor and out of work encourages their misplaced sense of being "entirely self made" people, justifies their hatred of "those people" - since if "there wasn't something wrong with them, they wouldn't be poor," and excuses their gun fetish since you never know when "those people" will show up and "need to be shot."

Modern right-wing politics is built on fear, hatred, and condemnation of those who are different and less fortunate. Such politics doesn't work well in an environment where most people are successful and there are plenty of opportunities for everyone.
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Old 11-13-2017, 06:44 AM
 
Location: USA
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Both political parties are hypocrites. But the red states are governed by conservatives who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut. The sad part is a lot poor people from the red states vote republican. They vote against their financial interest.
That’s because a lot of poor people in red states are pro-life, socially conservative, and don’t want gun control.

It’s all about God, Guns, Gays, and Abortion in poor conservative rural areas. In addition, the Democrats abandoned the working class decades ago. Why should poor rural people vote for today’s Demoracts, who are more concerned with transgender bathrooms than the fate of the bottom 80%? The Democrats threw Bernie Sanders under the bus and will probably throw Elizabeth Warren under the bus if she ever decides to run for president.
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:07 AM
 
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That’s because a lot of poor people in red states are pro-life, socially conservative, and don’t want gun control.

It’s all about God, Guns, Gays, and Abortion in poor conservative rural areas. In addition, the Democrats abandoned the working class decades ago. Why should poor rural people vote for today’s Demoracts, who are more concerned with transgender bathrooms than the fate of the bottom 80%? The Democrats threw Bernie Sanders under the bus and will probably throw Elizabeth Warren under the bus if she ever decides to run for president.
so the GOP care for the poor? are they not trying to scrap that Obama care? increasing taxes for everyone except the 1%?
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:51 AM
 
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Red states don't want a strong economy - that would mean "poors" and non-whites can get good jobs, too.

Based upon the ignorant drivel posted by the far-right here and everywhere, what they basically want is a good job for THEM and THEIR friends and family - and that's it. They desperately need to have people in bad shape who they can smugly feel superior to and use as object lessons in "the problems with those people." Having people poor and out of work encourages their misplaced sense of being "entirely self made" people, justifies their hatred of "those people" - since if "there wasn't something wrong with them, they wouldn't be poor," and excuses their gun fetish since you never know when "those people" will show up and "need to be shot."

Modern right-wing politics is built on fear, hatred, and condemnation of those who are different and less fortunate. Such politics doesn't work well in an environment where most people are successful and there are plenty of opportunities for everyone.
In the smaller and less densely populated areas that are quite often in red states.... there's more cronyism involved with employment and companies. People hire who their family knew since they were a kid, who their son married, etc.

It is a sociological difference, not political. I think this is where a lot of people on the left coast struggle to understand the rest of the country, they just don't really seem to get different cultures because they've never left their bubble. You have to see the country to really understand all of the differences.


It doesn't have anything to do with who is poor and what skin color they are, these social structures in these areas work against other white people too. That's why some people just move for more opportunities. It's not that there isn't any opportunity in the area they are from, it's just that the opportunities that are there are already taken and accounted for.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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Between entertainment and Silicon Valley... that's the majority of the economy.
No it isn't

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Old 11-13-2017, 11:09 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Nanny? ... they are at supernanny status out there...
Will be at the end of the year with all the new taxes and laws moon beam signed into place.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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For openers, the top ten cities with the highest poverty rates, are led by Democrats:

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961;
Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954;
Cincinnati, OH (3rd)… since 1984;
Cleveland, OH (4th)… since 1989;
Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican Mayor;
St. Louis, MO (6th)…. since 1949;
El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican Mayor;
Milwaukee, WI (8th)… since 1908;
Philadelphia, PA (9th)… since 1952;
Newark, NJ (10th)… since 1907.

California owns three of the five Biggest Municipal Bankruptcies In U.S. History. ...

Detroit, Michigan (2013) ...
Jefferson County, Alabama (2011) ...
Orange County, California (1994) ...
Stockton, California (2012) ...
San Bernardino County, California (2012)


Similarly, Democrat lead states (including California) have among the highest debt, tax, poverty and COL rates. I'm not knocking California, but, question whether state and local management by liberal Democrats should be emulated by other (more fortunate) cities and states.
maybe you should start your own thread that's relevant to whatever you're talking about.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:21 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Both political parties are hypocrites. But the red states are governed by conservatives who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut. The sad part is a lot poor people from the red states vote republican. They vote against their financial interest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8OoKAezlA8
Their financial interests, as in welfare?
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