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View Poll Results: Are you happy your taxes are going up?
Yes 22 29.73%
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Hahahaha - Turns out Mnuchin's promise of 100 people at Treasury working on numbers to support their projections has turned into hot air - just like his hotair boss.

No one at Treasury has any projections - and none were delivered today to Corker and others, as previously promised, all of whom wanted to see some justification for this fraud.

Hahahahahaha - so now, McConnell has delayed the bill until 11 a.m. tomorrow so they can get their ducks in a row tonight and figure out how work around the lack of evidence that this fraud is beneficial to the taxpayer.

Lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies. My god, there should be a way to prosecute these crooks for insisting on passing legislation they KNOW is detrimental to the country.

Isn't there a law??? Malfeasance in office or something???
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:21 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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The last thing rinos are going to do is cut social security and Medicare. These b******* won't even kill Obamacare and you seriously think they are going to touch SS and Medicare? That's delusional.
They are partially repealing ACA without an alternative in this bill. They have been withholding funding from ACA, raising premiums.

Are you on planet Earth?
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Yeah this is the plan from a month ago.Anybody got updates as to the changes being made tonight and where's the calculator for that.
Of course, even from the plan released a month ago, the likes of Pelosi and Schumer were still screaming that the proposed plan would not benefit the middle class and only served the interests of the rich

Still, I'd be interested in an updated calculator. It would shock me if I ended up paying more under any of the GOP plans put forward.
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:22 PM
 
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I think after so many years of the stock-market and housing going up and up and up.....we are due for a correction, it will come under Trump's watch.

Any tax-plan that is going to be implemented is not going to be wildly off-the-wall......and it will not factoring-in very much in causing the coming correction. The coming correction will be a result of this long-term upward-trend of housing, stock and other assets.....what goes up, must come down.
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Tried the calculator. I'm retired with pension/S.S. Only entered pension. Haven't heard how S.S. will be treated. Currently it is tax free but with a complicated formula work sheet if income is over $25000 to pay on portion of amount. I keep hearing that 50% of filers don't pay any tax and some with many child credits actually get a check from the I.R.S. I'm on a pension with S.S. I pay income tax and some years have to add a check payment.
Calculator reports that I will pay half of what I currently pay.
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:23 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Yeah this is the plan from a month ago.Anybody got updates as to the changes being made tonight and where's the calculator for that.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...owe-2017-10-26
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I'm on SS with an average retirement income from various sources and my taxes are going up. Whoopee.
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:27 PM
 
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That's the plan at 3:32 -- as we are browsing here the plan is being rewritten and changes being made.
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:28 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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but the boomers are putting off retiring


and as the boomers retire... about 9000k per day

.........................there are about 14,000 18-21 yr olds per day ENTERING the workforce to pay for the boomers retiring.....in the end...the SS/MC pot should be growing
Some are, some aren't. Many haven't saved enough while some have done quite well, especially with the timing of the stock market.

In the end? LOL. SSN has a better chance of being solvent, while health care costs are increasing and boomers are ~%60 obese as a demographic. The GOP plan adds to debt remember.... their "Study" even admits ~$1 trillion won't be offset by growth. How will the pot grow in the end?
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:28 PM
 
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https://twitter.com/latimes/status/936294162219008000

We knew it all along. It was really FISHY when Repubs, who have been complaining about deficits and the debt for many years, now suddenly turn tail and support a big tax cut that will drive up the debt by at least $1.5 Trillion.

The big plan is to cut taxes, grow the deficit, and then use it as an excuse to slash Social Security and Medicare.

Sorry Trump supporters -- you thought you were draining the swamp. Instead you got played.
Rubio is not the first Republican to admit this. Pretty sure Gary Cohn let the cat out of the bag already, but not as clearly.
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