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While some of that article may be true, too bad it can't change the fact that Flynn, Manafort, Kushner, McFarland, and even Trump lied. Those are black and white facts that can and will eventually be proven.
While some of that article may be true, too bad it can't change the fact that Flynn, Manafort, Kushner, McFarland, and even Trump lied. Those are black and white facts that can and will eventually be proven.
And too bad the DOJ under Obama and our current FBI was and is so corrupted and politicized left that Hillary, Obama, Lynch, Rice, Holder, Comey, et. al will get away with all their black and white factual lies......
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While some of that article may be true, too bad it can't change the fact that Flynn, Manafort, Kushner, McFarland, and even Trump lied. Those are black and white facts that can and will eventually be proven.
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And too bad the DOJ under Obama and our current FBI was and is so corrupted and politicized left that Hillary, Obama, Lynch, Rice, Holder, Comey, et. al will get away with all their black and white factual lies......
Hey, folks. You notice how the person quoted me but completely ignored everything I said and just started randomly spouting off about Obama and Hillary?
Hey, folks. You notice how the person quoted me but completely ignored everything I said and just started randomly spouting off about Obama and Hillary?
That's when you know you've won the argument.
I wish I could say it surprised me, but it does not. Only a few Trump supporters support Trump for positive reasons. The vast majority of Trump supporters are "haters". They support Trump because of who he is not and what he does not stand for. A few examples:
1. He is not Hillary Clinton. (More importantly he is not a woman)
2. He is is not Barack Obama. (He is not black)
3. He is not a "librul wuss"
4. He doesn't believe in health care for "no account people".
5. He doesn't believe in competition from countries like China.
6. He doesn't like Hispanics of Muslims.
I actually suspect as bad as Trump is that he isn't against Hispanics or even Muslims per se. However, he deliberately feeds into those who hate these groups. The hatred is so intense it can justify voting for a suspected child molester over someone simply because they are a democrat.
Trump supporters are much easier to define by what they are against, rather than what they are for.
And too bad the DOJ under Obama and our current FBI was and is so corrupted and politicized left that Hillary, Obama, Lynch, Rice, Holder, Comey, et. al will get away with all their black and white factual lies......
Clinton lost the election, so it makes no sense to say or imply that the FBI and the DOJ helped her.
And, the current heads of the FBI and Department of Justice are Trump appointees, not Obama appointees.
Finally, last I checked, Obama is gone. Just like I thought it was silly for him to blame his early troubles as President on Bush, I think it's silly for Trump (or his die hard fans) to blame Obama.
It's President Trump's watch now. How HE handles things from here on out is on his shoulders, not Obama's or anyone else's, for that matter.
I've said in other posts that I am willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt with all of this. Perhaps he just was clueless about the people he hired, or perhaps he just didn't understand the implications of what his campaign staffers were doing.
Either way, I'd have more respect for Trump if instead of trying to discredit the investigation, he was pushing hard to have Mueller and the DOJ to ferret out any and all election meddling, regardless of whether it happened on the Democrat OR Republican side.
I want to mention something that hasn't yet been discussed.
Our system of government is set up with THREE branches:
The legislative branch (Congress)
The Judicial Branch (includes both the FBI and the Dept of Justice)
The executive branch (the President)
The idea is that the three branches provide for checks and balances on each other. I have always thought that was a good system; it is sometimes clumsy and clunky, but it does eventually work.
In the Nixon era, we saw what happens when one branch decides to supersede the work of the other branches.
If I was advising Trump (which I'm clearly not), I'd refresh his memory of the 3-branch checks and balance system. I'd tell him to remind the American public of that system, and say that he FULLY supports the DOJ and FBI in their investigation to root out any and ALL wrong doing in the election, regardless of which side of the political aisle the chips may fall.
If it's just a matter of people in his campaign or administration or the Clinton campaign doing wrong, and not him, he has nothing to worry about.
If the DOJ somehow sweeps him into this, then he still has the legislative branch (Congress) to fall back on to keep him in office. So, I'd advise him that his focus right now needs to be building those bridges with Congress behind the scenes. Part of that includes making it clear that he is FULLY supporting Mueller's investigation.
But, coming out and shooting darts at the FBI and DOJ is going to hurt him in the end. Following the Dick Nixon playbook isn't smart. All that does is show how little he and his supporters respect the American system of government.
And, ultimately, that is what this investigation is all about: figuring out whether harm has been done to our system of government via foreign intervention in our electoral process.
ALL Americans - regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum - should want to know the answers to that question, whether the answer makes them happy or not.
That is the way to truly make America great again.
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