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The military isn't bankrupting the country, heath care and retirement spending is. Military is 15% of the federal budget, health care is 31%, and social security is 24%. So it's the latter two that need to be cut drastically.
Oh really? Last I checked, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan cost TRILLIONS of dollars.
Gotta love America, got money for wars but can't feed our poor.
The Boomers put their expenses on the credit card that the rest of us will have to pay off. Why am I not surprised?
That is why the partisan red state blue state stuff is a massive con. It is actually a generational battle politically both financially and culturally. Trump is the pinnacle of a plan to keep younger voters split between two parties so the Boomers maintain their power and cash flow. If millenials and gen x united to fight changes to SS and Medicare across parties, Congress would have to adjust strategy.
Like clockwork we always seem to end up every 4 years with candidates designed to keep the squabbling at a fever pitch and the sides trade turns doing performance art while serving the same corporations and donor class.
I think Obama took 600 billion out of Medicare to fund Obama-care a few years ago.
Slightly deceptive statement. It reduced future increases in medicare spending, but not the benefits. Those savings came at the expense of hospitals and insurers, not beneficiaries. But we all know there is no free lunch. Those savings will come out of higher hospital and insurance costs, but were relatively minor.
Also a nice case of what aboutism, and distraction.
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Of course we should give the big boys their tax cuts, and hope for sustained growth of 3% over the next decade, which would make 16 years of continuous expansion. Hey, it could happen.
And then, as Paul Ryan announced today, we'll spend 2018 cutting Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Let them eat "cake" (the bread dough that lined the old French bread ovens), because by then, the poor and the middle class won't have any fight left in them at all.
What histrionics? The thread is laced with comments on how future generations will be affected. Namely, the one directly above yours.
Further, why are we not supposed to care about the future generations? Your comment reeks of "I got mine."
Most of the posters on this thread are not beneficiaries of either SS or Medicare at this time. Those who are KNOW they will be affected the least - although draconian cuts to Medicare will certainly result in a loss of providers. This has been the case in certain areas of the country for a while now. As it is, Medicare reimbursements are too low, some docs won't take Medicare patients. Further cuts or refusal to raise Medicare reimbursements will only exacerbate the problem.
As stated above, voucherizing Medicare (Paul Ryan's wet dream) will result in very large numbers of retirees with no health insurance at all. The working class is getting poorer - wages haven't risen in 30 years. If SS benefits are lowered and Medicare is more expensive/unaffordable, poverty for future elderly is the obvious result.
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How is that better? Why should today's seniors receive benefits and tomorrow's seniors not? Why should - in 1965 - the first people benefit with no contribution, then it goes on since then and then future seniors be penalized because Republicans decided the wealth and corporations were more important to them? Should the 70 year olds go get jobs? Should the 70 year olds try to buy health care policies on the open market? What happened to Trump's often repeated promise not to touch Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security? Just a lie to get elected because he told voters he was a "different kind of Republican"?
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