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Old 12-17-2017, 08:01 PM
 
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Evil... just go find a different progressive meme to try to pitch. The subsidy folks, God Bless ‘em, do not pay enough if any taxes, to get hurt by this bill.
cool story, maybe you stop supporting the people who are destroying the middle class and creating mass inequality i would spin a different story.

but as it stands i see hypocritics on the right, supporting this plan but also the first ones with their hands out looking for federal support at state all the way down to the individual.
So excuse me if i think you are full of it, "earthly".
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:08 PM
 
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Exactly how much tax does the poor pay?
lots and lots.

about 50% taxation is sales , local etc. the poor, the low income , the families just getting by they all pay our regressive taxes every time they use a service, buy gas, purchase clothing.

I know you want to pretend the "RICH" pay all the tax, but that is false.. the rich pay about 55% of federal taxes, but % paid is low.

the title of this thread is BANG ON THE NOSE! just scraps for the proles and trillions (yes plural) for the rich over the next decade, trillions.

Just wait until the accountant get a hold of this plan, i suspect we will be able to drive buses through the massive gaps. You can't rush a plan like this without making lots of mistakes.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:54 PM
 
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lots and lots.

about 50% taxation is sales , local etc. the poor, the low income , the families just getting by they all pay our regressive taxes every time they use a service, buy gas, purchase clothing.

I know you want to pretend the "RICH" pay all the tax, but that is false.. the rich pay about 55% of federal taxes, but % paid is low.

the title of this thread is BANG ON THE NOSE! just scraps for the proles and trillions (yes plural) for the rich over the next decade, trillions.

Just wait until the accountant get a hold of this plan, i suspect we will be able to drive buses through the massive gaps. You can't rush a plan like this without making lots of mistakes.
Doesnt the rich pay sales tax? They are the biggest spenders.
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Old 12-17-2017, 10:25 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You've always made it clear you prefer the Alabama and Mexican system of a flat and low income tax and a high sales tax.
Go back and read all my relevant posts. They all suggest the tax system Scandinavian and European countries use. You're imagining things that aren't there.
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Old 12-17-2017, 10:33 PM
 
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Exactly how much tax does the poor pay?
Let me ask you this. We are supposed to be the greatest country in the world yet no one looks out for the poor. Why is that. And this new tax plan certainly doesn't help them.
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Old 12-17-2017, 10:38 PM
 
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Let me ask you this. We are supposed to be the greatest country in the world yet no one looks out for the poor. Why is that. And this new tax plan certainly doesn't help them.
Here's just a short list of charities that help the poor:

https://mswonlineprograms.org/poverty-hunger/
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Old 12-17-2017, 10:41 PM
 
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Here's just a short list of charities that help the poor:

https://mswonlineprograms.org/poverty-hunger/
I am not talking about charities. I'm talking about this new tax plan
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Old 12-18-2017, 12:14 AM
 
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I am not talking about charities. I'm talking about this new tax plan
Taxes aren't necessary to care for the poor. There are plenty of charities that do so.
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Old 12-18-2017, 02:39 AM
 
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Go back and read all my relevant posts. They all suggest the tax system Scandinavian and European countries use. You're imagining things that aren't there.
Yes, you have stated that you support the Trump tax plan and are AGAINST stronger unions, high tax-to-GDP and much higher taxes on the rich. This is totally in line with the Latin American and Alabama way of doing things that you want to see happen in America. This idea that you support something else is laughable.
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Old 12-18-2017, 02:41 AM
 
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Taxes aren't necessary to care for the poor. There are plenty of charities that do so.
Yes, just like in Latin America, your dream system, where the poor has to rely on charities instead of a public safety net. There is nothing great about the poor having to beg for charity donations. Move to Mexico or Peru and see how that works out.
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