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I would say she won California overwhelmingly. Outside of California, Trump had her beat by almost 1.5 million more votes. But all this spilled milk; the popular vote is really meaningless in a electoral Presidential election.
Yeah -- let's remove some states so we can make the statistics fit our narrative -- that's always a good idea.
There were six states where the votes were VERY close. If Clinton had won in 4 of those states she would have won the election.
It came down to some 175,000 votes -- if Clinton had gotten those and won the states, she would be PResident.
She's not, she lost.
Trump won by a relatively small margin. Trump was not voted in with a big mandate.
He squeaked in.
Those swing states aren't committed to him unless he can change the climate in their state. As long as job growth is significant in those states - -he will remain their choice.
Trump is not liked by Democrat or Republican leaders.
He represents a Third Force in American politics: a "nationalist, populist" force that doesn't fit in with the open borders, multi-culturalist, globalist, interventionist policies of the main political parties.
So, as a Trump supporter, I would vote for anyone who supports his policies.
I can't think of any other way to explain why Trump is still so popular among his base. A lot of people I know who voted for Trump aren't particularly satisfied with everything he's done, they just prefer him on his worst day to a Democrat. They will continue to support Trump like their high school or college football team during a bad season because after all, he is their guy, warts and all. Would you say this is the case among the people who still support Trump? Do you actually think the guy is honest and is doing a good job or do you just think he's better than a liberal?
Here is a list of democrats that I would vote for:
Frank Rizzo (ex Philly mayor), unfortunately he died in 1991
Ed Rendell - (ex Philly mayor & ex PA governor) - a dem but a smart centrist
Doug Jones - the new AL senator
Some of us Trump supporters on City Data were Democrats. I was a Democrat most of my life. Heck; I am a retired 30 year Teamster and our leaders always wanted us to vote Democrat. However, there was one time they encouraged us to vote Republican and I felt betrayed by my union. That was when they encouraged us to vote for Reagan.
On the other hand I saw that workers stopped getting raises that kept up with inflation. I saw the start of part time jobs. I saw benefits diminish and union losing power. Nothing good was happening with our current leadership. Workers, especially in the private sector; were taking a beating. I finally realized that it was foolish to support those that did not help my fellow workers. This realization was hard since I was taught, since childhood, that the Democrats represented American workers. Those in the public sector faired better - but they rely on the taxes paid by those in the private sector.
What caused the Democrats to turn their backs on the very people that built the Party? I always thought they wanted the votes of illegal immigrants and their friends. Today I do not think that was entirely the case. When you look at the money behind the push for open border Democrats, like the one and a half billion to get Hillary into office; it is more complicated than that. There is obviously a lot of special interest money backing these anti- American politicians. There are plenty of Republicans that march to the same drumbeat as those on the other side of the isle.
Trump was the last hope for American workers. Automation is poised to knock us down one more notch. Hillary we saw as simply another Obama (maybe worse). We had no other choice and, fortunately, President Trump is making good on all of his campaign pledges or at least is making an attempt. We could not expect that out of Hillary; what did she run on - "I hate Trump"?
I think this is one of the best posts I have read on C-D. Well said. Yes Republicans are not really much better, and Trump is fighting them also. Thanks for a very well written, and expressed post that speaks both from he heart, and the brain.
I would say she won California overwhelmingly. Outside of California, Trump had her beat by almost 1.5 million more votes. But all this spilled milk; the popular vote is really meaningless in a electoral Presidential election.
Some of us Trump supporters on City Data were Democrats. I was a Democrat most of my life. Heck; I am a retired 30 year Teamster and our leaders always wanted us to vote Democrat. However, there was one time they encouraged us to vote Republican and I felt betrayed by my union. That was when they encouraged us to vote for Reagan.
On the other hand I saw that workers stopped getting raises that kept up with inflation. I saw the start of part time jobs. I saw benefits diminish and union losing power. Nothing good was happening with our current leadership. Workers, especially in the private sector; were taking a beating. I finally realized that it was foolish to support those that did not help my fellow workers. This realization was hard since I was taught, since childhood, that the Democrats represented American workers. Those in the public sector faired better - but they rely on the taxes paid by those in the private sector.
What caused the Democrats to turn their backs on the very people that built the Party? I always thought they wanted the votes of illegal immigrants and their friends. Today I do not think that was entirely the case. When you look at the money behind the push for open border Democrats, like the one and a half billion to get Hillary into office; it is more complicated than that. There is obviously a lot of special interest money backing these anti- American politicians. There are plenty of Republicans that march to the same drumbeat as those on the other side of the isle.
Trump was the last hope for American workers. Automation is poised to knock us down one more notch. Hillary we saw as simply another Obama (maybe worse). We had no other choice and, fortunately, President Trump is making good on all of his campaign pledges or at least is making an attempt. We could not expect that out of Hillary; what did she run on - "I hate Trump"?
If Bernie Sanders had gotten the Dem nomination, would you have voted for him...nobody was more pro-worker than Senator Sanders is. Every policy he supported would help the working class and middle class.
It is very difficult to support a political party that is pro- illegal immigration and soft on terrorism.
Even if some of their positions on other issues are legitimate.
How are Dems soft on Terrorism? It was Obama that got Bin Laden...you know that man that actually attacked us on 9/11...even though Bush went after Iraq.
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