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Old 12-20-2017, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Hey.....if y'all wanted single payer then you should've passed single payer when you had a super majority.


But you knew the American people didn't want it and wouldn't be ready for it until the ACA screwed up most people's insurance so bad that single payer would look good in comparison.

There was just one thing you didn't count on.......
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Old 12-20-2017, 03:40 PM
 
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Hey.....if y'all wanted single payer then you should've passed single payer when you had a super majority.


But you knew the American people didn't want it and wouldn't be ready for it until the ACA screwed up most people's insurance so bad that single payer would look good in comparison.

There was just one thing you didn't count on.......
Strong support for a national health care system. Its the ruling donor class that dont want it. The people with power and money, like the insurance racket.

Majority in U.S. Support Idea of Fed-Funded Healthcare System
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Majority in U.S. Support Idea of Fed-Funded Healthcare System

58% favor replacing the ACA with federally funded healthcare system
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Old 12-20-2017, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Clinton had several years of a surplus budget. We were on track to pay off the national debt.

Then a Republican came along.

Obama pulled the economy out of the ditch.

Then a Republican came along.

It's like a bad dream.
Lol--the GOP used to blast the Dems as 'tax and spend.'

Now their party is pretty much one of 'spend and spend.'

And they can't cut Medicare or SS, because Donny 'I-never-tell-a-lie()' Trump promised the entire country that if he was elected, he would not touch SS or Medicare. That would be a suicide "read my lips" move for Trump.

He can sell off the America the Beautiful, destroy the environment, cut health insurance, scientific research and education, to make up for the spending, but Trump will go down as someone who upped the deficit, and for no reason at all, other than to enrich himself, his friends, the donors. (and that's before all the dirt on his finances comes out). And he will be detested for what he does to the environment, scientific progress, and education, because the US is going to fall so far behind other countries, it will be pathetic.

The last republican that had a a good economy was Reagan, and we all know what happened there. He exponentially increased defense spending and defense jobs, using the Cold War as an excuse, but he's known for tripling the deficit and having left a recession for the next president, because all those defense jobs disappeared when the Wall came down.
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Old 12-20-2017, 04:01 PM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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An extra $200 per month is HUGE to the vast majority of Americans. That you don't know that suggests that you are out of your depth on this topic.
Yes it is! You can buy a lot of groceries for $200. Not an amount to be sneezed at!
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Old 12-20-2017, 04:18 PM
 
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Yeah. Heatlh insurance costs were not a problem before Obama. As a business owner I can assure you that is moronic.
Amen. Another business owner here who's been buying health insurance for a business 20+ years. Before the ACA act, it was a free for all. Going up every year. REMEMBER these health insurance companies are FOR PROFIT. About 2005, We had a 70% increase! Long before Obama.

These people don't get it. They have no experience, get insurance handed to them by their employer, or do without. They have no businesses which they need to keep costs down on.

Here's something really precious. I know two that are on Medicaid, and complain about ACA. One is a housekeeper and the other spent her life sucking off state jobs. And yes they are both FAUX news watchers.
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Old 12-20-2017, 04:25 PM
 
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Whether the Democrats voted yes or no it didn't matter. They don't have the majority. This is all on the Republicans. I can't wait to see this blow up in their faces.

Enjoy your big wheel with the extra $200 a month you get.
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Blowing up in faces = good 401k returns, full employment and profitable companies

Oh, the horror.

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Old 12-20-2017, 04:27 PM
 
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Amen. Another business owner here who's been buying health insurance for a business 20+ years. Before the ACA act, it was a free for all. Going up every year. REMEMBER these health insurance companies are FOR PROFIT. About 2005, We had a 70% increase! Long before Obama.

These people don't get it. They have no experience, get insurance handed to them by their employer, or do without. They have no businesses which they need to keep costs down on.

Here's something really precious. I know two that are on Medicaid, and complain about ACA. One is a housekeeper and the other spent her life sucking off state jobs. And yes they are both FAUX news watchers.
Hmmm, the insurance companies under th ACA were nonprofit? Rhetorical question.
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Old 12-20-2017, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Strong support for a national health care system. Its the ruling donor class that dont want it. The people with power and money, like the insurance racket.

Majority in U.S. Support Idea of Fed-Funded Healthcare System
Article at your link is dated May 2016.

Well after the ACA had done it's job of screwing up everyone's health insurance to the point that, of course people would say they'd prefer a national system to what they have now.

Ask the same question back in 2008 and you'd get a very different response.

But hey, thanks for proving my point.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:08 PM
 
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You voted for them
Sorry I am not a member of Congress
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Blowing up in faces = good 401k returns, full employment and profitable companies

Oh, the horror.
All of which was present prior to the tax cut.
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