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Old 12-20-2017, 06:09 PM
 
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How much would you save?
We could save a ton if we gave everyone a magic pill that cured all illness for a lifetime also.

Both are about equally possible. Unworkable solutions are not solutions. We could not deport everyone under any circumstance.
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:10 PM
 
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Are you serious? Ahh, got it. You were making a funny. Satire, right? You go back to your safe space now.

Btw, the forgoing was not a microagression. It was macro to the full.
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but it's a shame that healthy people don't have the conscience or integrity to sign up for health insurance in order to pay for the unhealthy among us. The GOP is a selfish party, but so are our young and healthy people too.
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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No, we don't pay for ER care. The person getting the treatment gets a bill. They pay it or they don't. If they don't pay it, the person who owes the bill goes into bankruptcy and the debt is discharged. Please stop repeating the simplistic liberal lie that everyone pays for the uninsured who use the ER for primary care.
Huh? If a bill is not paid, or is discharged in Bankruptcy the bearer of the note, i.e. the Hospital has to absorb the loss, that results in higher fees to all of us.
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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We could save a ton if we gave everyone a magic pill that cured all illness for a lifetime also.

Both are about equally possible. Unworkable solutions are not solutions. We could not deport everyone under any circumstance.
Illegals in the ER are a very local dependent happening. We here in small town AZ we see few. In Douglas on the border it's a big deal.
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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How much would you save?
Ten years ago, they cost my county hospital district $677 million a year. It most likely much higher by now.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chron...ls-1596889.php
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:15 PM
 
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You can't do that, if you are an employer who is mandated to provide health insurance you can't refer your employees to the individual market. When the ACA first started my husband's employer tried doing just what you suggested and got shot down by the feds.
Yes, the key word in your post being...IF. I don't know one way or the other, as I've never read a post from foundapeanut where she states how many employees they have. IIRC, expatCA has posted that he falls under the mandate number and has given his employees a choice, and that they wanted a non exchange plan.
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:15 PM
 
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Illegals in the ER are a very local dependent happening. We here in small town AZ we see few. In Douglas on the border it's a big deal.
I’d bet it costs my county over a billion dollars a year today.
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:16 PM
 
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Illegals in the ER are a very local dependent happening. We here in small town AZ we see few. In Douglas on the border it's a big deal.
I'm going to use slight hyperbole here but the point is there.

Turning away sick kids to die is what a Christian nation does?
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:19 PM
 
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Huh? If a bill is not paid, or is discharged in Bankruptcy the bearer of the note, i.e. the Hospital has to absorb the loss, that results in higher fees to all of us.
It is unlikely the hospital will pursue the patient to BK.

The hospital will always be trying to raise their reimbursement rates. This is somewhat like a utility in that they have to negotiate fees. It is far from free market retail going on.

If say a hospital charges $1M for services, what number do you think they will or could settle on?
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Old 12-20-2017, 06:21 PM
 
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We could save a ton if we gave everyone a magic pill that cured all illness for a lifetime also.

Both are about equally possible. Unworkable solutions are not solutions. We could not deport everyone under any circumstance.
Sure you could.
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