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70% of US supplied soybeans went into feed for hogs. Less hogs means less feed. What China needs in the short term is pork and pork products. Then sows... then feed. About 1 year to get it turned around.
20% (= or -) of the population is employed in agriculture. That is nearly as many people as in the US. Their economy is hurting.
A honest, truthful, healthy, productive china is in everyone's best interest. They need to work on that.
Surely you know China owns the largest pork producer in the USA? I'm sure they feed US Soybeans - paid for largely by Trumps giveaways, to their Smithfield Farms Hogs.
Let's get back to our Dow 25000 and booming and do our regular calcs.
Dow 25,300 on or about the OP....realistically, it's almost two years especially since the markets don't usually do well in the next couple of months.
Let's use today or so at 26,700 - at two years with compounding each year.
Why that's a little less than 3% per year...or about even (and or 1% above) inflation and GDP.....
IN OTHER WORDS NO RETURN AT ALL.
It must be that most lovers of the Trump Economy don't have a lot invested in the "general market" because the DOW and S&P represent a vast percentage of the money (index funds) that many investors would hold. But that's hard to imagine - that non-college education white guys (Trumps #1 Demo) are somehow stock picking geniuses.
Let's get back to our Dow 25000 and booming and do our regular calcs.
Dow 25,300 on or about the OP....realistically, it's almost two years especially since the markets don't usually do well in the next couple of months.
Let's use today or so at 26,700 - at two years with compounding each year.
Why that's a little less than 3% per year...or about even (and or 1% above) inflation and GDP.....
IN OTHER WORDS NO RETURN AT ALL.
It must be that most lovers of the Trump Economy don't have a lot invested in the "general market" because the DOW and S&P represent a vast percentage of the money (index funds) that many investors would hold. But that's hard to imagine - that non-college education white guys (Trumps #1 Demo) are somehow stock picking geniuses.
You're looking at a data single point in the market and implying it's indicative of any future data points. What investor would do that? Oh wait... I know, a hammer headed, President Trump hater, who is the chicken little of CD, that's who.
You're looking at a data single point in the market and implying it's indicative of any future data points. What investor would do that? Oh wait... I know, a hammer headed, President Trump hater, who is the chicken little of CD, that's who.
You have only hate to spew.
Ok, so you think I picked out the date that this thread started????? And I picked out NOW....as being since then?
Dave, that's fantastic. Surely you know "then" and "now" and can consider this thread in that time period?
"01-04-2018, 09:51 AM
phma
President Trump is absolutely the greatest on the economy. Dow breaks 25,000
They say it still has room to run !!!!
Go ahead 401K make my day !!!"
Let's be EXACT here...... Jan 4, 2018 - immediately after "tax reform" and when "tariff talk" started...
25,295
Today: 26,860
That works out to exactly 3% per year if we don't see a large increase by the end of the year. But I predict we may end as high as a WHOPPING 4.5% increase per year, less than 1/2 the normal...
I understand how you may not like those actual facts if you truly thought that giving away free Trillions was going to juice the economy. But putting that on me is not exactly helping the average American or Investor.
Perhaps you should fall back to "we all have to take one for the team and if we elect Trump forever and let him be the King of Debt and Tariffs it will be worthwhile someday".....
That is the only explanation I've heard....for the woes.
DOW tanked yesterday after Pelosi announced impeachment investigation over the newest fake scandal. Imagine what will happen when Trump is out and a democratic socialist is elected!
DOW tanked yesterday after Pelosi announced impeachment investigation over the newest fake scandal. Imagine what will happen when Trump is out and a democratic socialist is elected!
If you and any of us put the thought into crafting the constitution like our founding fathers did, and then if we considered how we would feel about any elected official crossing the lines our constitution establishes "to form a more perfect union," what should Congress do about what Trump is doing? Look the other way?
Of course Trump fans don't think along those lines. For them it's all about twisting these issues beyond reason so as to focus their attention on their phobias. I'll take socialism over dictatorship, but neither choice is what we're actually dealing with when it comes to what Trump is doing. Please...
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