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Its when you make statements like this that those of us who pay attention realize what a fanatic you really are and how you are standing in a place that few people would join you. Its also why its smart to not pay attention to all your rants about Trump.
As far as health care goes, I am tired of "isms". I want a system that works and the one we currently have in America only works for a segment of the population. We had 46 million people out of 300 million without any insurance at all until the ACA was passed.
FTR, I wouldn't nationalize health care as the British have done. However, a single payer health insurance model like Canada has would be very effective. Is everyone going to get everything they want from such a system? No. But the point is that more people would get better health care at a lower cost than are getting it now.
I could care less about rants about socialism or fascism. Not applicable to what is being discussed.
you are absolutely correct Mark.
we need a solution for the US, and we can use others as a frame to build something that serves everyone and has options to allow those who want more to get more.
it is not nearly as costly or hard as the extremists pretend. We are wealthy, we have scale, we have excellent systems to borrow from.
the real blockade is from vested interests. the Powell memo gives a great insight into why we have such widespread insecurity of healthcare and employment. it is intentional.
I think this is the only time I have heard SS and Medicare cited as doing well.
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Yeah, lets have everyone just opt out and then there would be no calls for the government to step in when millions of seniors are simply tortured to death as a result of lack of health care and retirement funds.
I think this is the only time I have heard SS and Medicare cited as doing well.
SS have been paying out benefits on time to all beneficiaries for the past 80 years. Pretty good track record! How about Medicare. How many lives have that government program saved? Can we imagine tens of millions of seniors paying out of pocket for health care services? It would be the biggest heist perpetrated on a population in human history.
SS have been paying out benefits on time to all beneficiaries for the past 80 years. Pretty good track record! How about Medicare. How many lives have that government program saved? Can we imagine tens of millions of seniors paying out of pocket for health care services? It would be the biggest heist perpetrated on a population in human history.
Medicare is great for patients, OK for primary care docs. Not so good for medial sub-specialists.
The 'heist' is why Medicare works so well for so many and for so long.
Medicare beneficiaries only pay in about 2/3 of the cost of their received benefits. A great deal that IMO we should extend toward the middle class. Hillary was to push to drop Medicare to age 50-55 range, which IMO would have also helped solve the current Obamacare problem.
When in America has our medical community ever simultaneously canceled thousands upon thousands of surgeries due to the flu striking and the country facing a shortage of physicians? I've never heard of such a thing. Now I see people immediately rising to defend the NHS, rather than questioning how a healthy and robust system could allow such a thing to happen.
Elective surgery requires a lot of advance planning for most people. Their home lives and jobs are affected by their convalescence. Many people need to train someone to cover their job during their absence. Having your surgery date pulled out from under you because the medical system can't handle what is a predictable yearly event is extremely inconvenient for people - not to mention the extended suffering that many of them must endure until they can be treated. It's the sign of a system bursting at the seams and failing it's people. I'm not sure why people would rush to defend such a huge clusterf*** and not instead demand some answers from the NHS.
We did have a flu epidemic in Australia last winter and it was three times the normal rate. As some people go to the casualty room at hospital to have a splinter removed or whatever, they triage, like everywhere else, and the splinter people would have had to wait longer. The media thinks something like that is a good story.
Our "socialised" healthcare system is dual and it works very well. We have a high life expectancy and a relatively low expenditure.
We all have basic free healthcare and also are encouraged by tax policies to pay for private insurance. About 40% of the population have it, generally for precisely the logistics of elective surgery that are outlined above. Ours, two of us, costs about $170 a month, with an annual excess of $200 total and that is probably on the high side. Like most retired people we do not any longer pay income tax so we do not need to pay the Medicare levy these days.
All I can say is that absolutely anything that the government comes up with that could weaken our healthcare system is so unpopular that they have to abandon it. The Libs proposed a compulsory fee of $A6 for a visit to a GP and that was enough to make them look like losing the next election. As it now works, I go to a GP who accepts the government rebate as her fee, so it is free to me. My husband chooses a different doctor who charges more and it costs him about $20.
My kids have lived in the UK and their system has its pluses and minuses compared to ours. As I imagine the US system does too, though no one can deny that the US system is very expensive.
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