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Old 01-05-2018, 03:00 PM
 
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I'll stay in the U.S. With all our problems.

I was in western Europe and learned how miserly treatment was doled out to citizens (6 visits post CVA for many, no prosthetic limbs unless you convinced a board that you needed one for your job). Long waits for conditions deemed elective to everyone but the person suffering. I am not interested.

I do tire of people who want yet another MRI or CT in terminal cases, as if those are curative. And thankfully the "Pain is the 5th Vital Sign" nonsense is going away (though too late for those hooked on narcotics because hospital reviews hung on pain-free patients).

There is so much we in the U.S. could do to reduce costs, but how many would tolerate a 6 person room of mixed genders for themselves or grandma, like an RN friend did in Dublin, Ire? We are so very spoiled.
Here the insurance companies do that.
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Old 01-05-2018, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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meh, the hospitals I've seen in London looked like they were out of a Stephen King novel. As an American, not sure how comfortable I'd be going in some of them.
London's major hospitals are fairly modern - the Royal London and Barts had around £1 Billion spent on it, UCLH is very new, St Thomas is modern, as is Guys, St Mary's is undergoing a massive redevelopment, whilst Kings and St George's in South London are also very modern and up to date. On top of that you have a lot of national specialist hospitals in London, many of which are internationally renowned and very well funded.

Whilst some of the hospitals may have kept listed facades, by and large they are very modern, and many do have private rooms, as well as some small wards.

The new Cancer Centre at Guys looks fantastic, whilst a new £1 Billion Cancer Treatment Hub is also planned.

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Old 01-05-2018, 03:35 PM
 
Location: England
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My local hospital is very modern. Indoor toilets and everything!!.........
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Old 01-05-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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My local hospital is very modern. Indoor toilets and everything!!.........


My local hospital now has running water, so we no longer have to go out to the well outside.
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Old 01-05-2018, 03:48 PM
 
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Of course there's a vaccine for influenza.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm

Yes, there is a vaccine for flu, and has been for some time. But there is not 100% surety one will *NOT* come down with flu if vaccinated.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/this-ye...-experts-warn/


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professional...ss-studies.htm
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Old 01-05-2018, 03:52 PM
 
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My local hospital now has running water, so we no longer have to go out to the well outside.
Ain't progress great? Your place got that newfangled electricity yet?
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:02 PM
 
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Ain't progress great? Your place got that newfangled electricity yet?
No still candles at the moment, but on the bright side the heat from the candle keeps the patients warm at night.

My new hospital has parking space for 12 ambulances outside plus extra space for the horses that pull them, now that's progress.
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:08 PM
 
Location: England
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No still candles at the moment, but on the bright side the heat from the candle keeps the patients warm at night.

My new hospital has parking space for 12 ambulances outside plus extra space for the horses that pull them, now that's progress.
Room for twelve ambulances huh? AND horses? Geez, we'll soon have a health service as good as America!!
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:10 PM
 
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Time for bed now for David. I'll leave the Americans in your safe and sure hands Brave New World.......
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:24 PM
 
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In the US, those 50,000 surgeries would never have been scheduled in the first place.

It is far more likely that the average American would not be able to pay for the scheduled operation, not until it developed into a problem that likely killed them.

The "third world conditions" spoken of in the original article are third world by UK standards. Your average American does not have access to third world medical conditions.
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