Why do so many statists hate freedom? (vs, money, government)

[No_Recess]

The self-loathing amongst statists is painful to watch.
It's almost like they want themselves and their neighbors to fail just so they can prove they were right about needing the State all along.
Involuntary government is the worst thing to happen to freedom since...well forever.
All people need not be ashamed of being an individual and not involuntarily grouped into a collective.
It (freedom) is respected all over the world...if given the chance.

[greywar]

Do we really need yet another of these threads that is only designed to make people fight or argue, and not actually discuss real issues?

[BBMW]

Freedom is messy and disorganized. Drives OCD people nuts.

[Cheesesteak Cravings]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

The self-loathing amongst statists is painful to watch.
It's almost like they want themselves and their neighbors to fail just so they can prove they were right about needing the State all along.
Involuntary government is the worst thing to happen to freedom since...well forever.
All people need not be ashamed of being an individual and not involuntarily grouped into a collective.
It (freedom) is respected all over the world...if given the chance.

Freedom is only respected all over the world when it's backed up by the threat of violence.

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by greywar

Do we really need yet another of these threads that is only designed to make people fight or argue, and not actually discuss real issues?

Just mocking Red team vs Blue team when they're both really just authoritarians of different flavors.

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by Cheesesteak Cravings

Freedom is only respected all over the world when it's backed up by the threat of violence.

I meant the idea of freedom because none of us are really free.

[pknopp]

You are welcome to your opinion as soon as you explain how your system would work. You've never been able to do this yet.

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by pknopp

You are welcome to your opinion as soon as you explain how your system would work. You've never been able to do this yet.

My system would be for me. Yours for you.

If I wanted to be in charge of your life I'd be taxing you at a much higher clip...which is currently 0.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

My system would be for me. Yours for you.

If I wanted to be in charge of your life I'd be taxing you at a much higher clip...which is currently 0.

Right, you have no point. You want to leach off everyone else.

[Drewjdeg]

Originally Posted by No_Recess

My system would be for me. Yours for you.

If I wanted to be in charge of your life I'd be taxing you at a much higher clip...which is currently 0.

Private wealth is also oppressive. Let's say we get rid of the state; it sounds to me like you don't have enough money to be be free. You've never once addressed this.