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Old 01-13-2018, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I'm fine with them as long as I'm not forced to subsidize them through taxes. If those technologies prevail through the free market, I see no reason to stop them.
This.

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Old 01-13-2018, 07:00 AM
 
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All of the above.

I am not aware of anyone who is opposed to the use of renewable energy, lies by the Democrat left and their media supporters to the contrary notwithstanding.

That being said, the only renewable source of energy that can be produced reliably and in sufficient quantities to replace fossil fuels is nuclear, which the environmental left does not appear to support because of the environmental dangers that it poses.

So we will be dominated by fossil fuels for electricity production and transportation purposes, likely for the rest of all of our lives. But someday our technology will improve to the point where this will no longer be the case. It just will not happen as quickly as some people are currently been mislead into thinking that it will.

Also, renewable energy needs to be able to financially stand on its own, without government subsidies. Again, someday that will happen. Just not anytime soon.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities (StP)
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All for it.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Wind energy is a waste, unpredictable and thousands of giant windmills are ugly and ruin the landscape, and the greenies say they kill birds, so that's another strike. Solar has promise, but again is unreliable year round in most places and only generates max power a couple hours a day.

Hydroelectric via tidal generators seems the most promising. Tides are as reliable as the sun rising and liberals raising taxes. Tidal turbines are like windmills that you can always count on generating a reliable amount of power. Studies will need to be done to see how much impact (there is never none) they will have on marine life.

Renewable energy can work for homes, but electricity is still a poor solution for vehicles due to the current state of batteries. As the tech advances and they charge faster and hold more power it will become a more viable solution. For now batteries can't compete with the energy stored in a gallon of gas.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:23 AM
 
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As the title states...conservatives, what's your opinion on solar and wind energy?
Solar and wind energy aren't "renewable". You need to come up with a different term.

That aside, why would you think "conservatives" or anyone would be "against" them? I've never heard of such a thing. Strange question.

If there is a positive EROEI and acceptably low environmental impact, then I'm all for it. We know that there are aesthetic issues with the big wind turbines, some of which were pointed out above.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:27 AM
 
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Stop subsidizing coal and oil and see what we get.

Let the markets and demand push innovation.
The primary tax break for coal is on pollution controls and for oil it is non productive wells. If those tax breaks were removed and the cost was passed onto the consumer the average person might see an increase of 20 cents on their electric bill, the motorist will pay a fraction of a penny more per gallon.

The tax breaks given to the fossil fuel industry are a drop in the bucket relative to the value of the market and the tax revenues they generate. Just for some perspective here the tax breaks given to the entire oil/gas industry is roughly equivalent to Exxon's revenue for a few days.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:43 AM
 
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I'm against all gas wells except the one that heats my house.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:47 AM
 
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I love renewables, solar is going to be huge and on windy days wind can power over half of our grid. The problem with wind is it blows at night when it's not needed. We need battery technology to store the power.

I plan to install solar when I build my house within 10 years. While Trump touts coal he also kept the electric car tax credit in the tax bill so that's a positive.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:49 AM
 
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As the title states...conservatives, what's your opinion on solar and wind energy? Are you ok with it? are you against is? Is it hippie hog-wash? Are you against the tax incentives? Are nuclear energy, coal and oil working so why fix it if it's not broke?

Some conservatives seem to be for renewables while others are against. What's your opinion on renewables and why?
I’d love to have the solar panel roof Elon Musk envisions. He claims it will cost the same as a standard roof.

Every time I’ve worked through the cost of current solar, it’s too expensive.

I don’t want to buy the current expensive technology when I’m hopeful there will be a breakthrough on a cheaper and more efficient system.

I will want to remain hooked to a power grid even with a solar system.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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We aren't going to run out of fossil fuels for centuries considering all the oil, and natural gas we have just domestically. Therefore, the only reason for "alternative" fuels is an environmental one. The premise of this is that CO2 is "bad". There is no conclusive evidence that is true. However, as others have noted, let the markets, and not government move us to other energy sources. Higher taxes, fees and surcharges on fossil fuels, and their use only hurts the economy, and makes everything more expensive for those that can least afford it.

So yes, let's keep developing other sources of energy while maximizing our extraction, and use of fossil fuels simultaneously.
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