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View Poll Results: Who is at fault for the shutdown?
House/Senate Majority Republicans 138 37.50%
Democrats 171 46.47%
Both 59 16.03%
Voters: 368. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-20-2018, 09:25 PM
 
Location: FL
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LOL! Are you trying to absurdly allude that Democrats have suddenly become fiscal hawks?
You may want to reread it slower.
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Old 01-20-2018, 09:37 PM
 
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You may want to reread it slower.
Explain it to me. What's the relevance of pointing out how fiscal hawks voted?
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Old 01-20-2018, 09:41 PM
 
Location: FL
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Explain it to me. What's the relevance of pointing out how fiscal hawks voted?
Yet, four Republicans, including Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Mike Lee of Utah, opposed the bill.

Lee, a fiscal conservative, voted down each of the previous temporary spending bills. Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul also opposed the measure over budget concerns, saying the proposed measure would exceed spending caps Congress enacted in 2011 to keep expenses under control.

They were Republicans!!! They didn't like the bill either!
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Old 01-20-2018, 09:49 PM
 
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Yet, four Republicans, including Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Mike Lee of Utah, opposed the bill.

Lee, a fiscal conservative, voted down each of the previous temporary spending bills. Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul also opposed the measure over budget concerns, saying the proposed measure would exceed spending caps Congress enacted in 2011 to keep expenses under control.

They were Republicans!!! They didn't like the bill either!
What was in the bill that Democrats objected to?
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Of this moment:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.f8dc3c379086
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:34 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Irresponsible people send irresponsible senators to D. C.

Our constitution allows collecting taxes for only one reason. That is to provide the protection of OUR citizens. Illegals have no rights here. Our military should be first priority. Anyone not voting to keep the military funded is an irresponsible person. Anyone helping illegals stay here and encouraging them with any help is a traitor. The constitution says so.

I am talking about either political party or the president. Rid our country of these invaders and get the military people their checks. Start doing your jobs or go home or do as one C-Span caller suggested; if you are more interested in helping law breakers than you are in helping citizens, move to their country and do it there. We don't need you in government here.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:40 PM
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Washington Post got it wrong according to the polls on City-Data. The polls on this forum go more in the direction of people I know. I think some national media are rigging the polls to say what they and not the citizens want. Maybe they polled the illegals. They don't count. Criminals don't get a vote.
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:06 PM
 
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https://twitter.com/ABC/status/954895300627443712

Twitter has spoken. More people blame Trump than Schumer.
Just goes to show how uninformed most Democrats are. The Democrats literally filibustered the CR! They are the only ones to blame.
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:13 PM
 
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Just goes to show how uninformed most Democrats are. The Democrats literally filibustered the CR! They are the only ones to blame.
They didn't filibuster it. They just voted against it. In fact some republicans did too. You blame the leader though...Trump. If he did his job and lead.... this could have been prevented.
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:24 PM
 
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There should have one more option for the poll:

TRUMP
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