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Old 01-19-2018, 06:21 AM
 
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Driving a car into the busiest parts of Manhattan could cost as much as $11.52, under a major proposal for Gov. Mario Cuomo that would make NYC the first city in the US with a pay-to-drive plan. Due to the explosive growth in NYC, its public transportation system are in bad shape and gridlock traffic has become a big problem. The idea is the revenues generated would improve the public transportation and road systems and decrease congestion.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/18/n...T.nav=top-news
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Old 01-19-2018, 06:29 AM
 
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Driving a car into the busiest parts of Manhattan could cost as much as $11.52, under a major proposal for Gov. Mario Cuomo that would make NYC the first city in the US with a pay-to-drive plan. Due to the explosive growth in NYC, its public transportation system are in bad shape and gridlock traffic has become a big problem. The idea is the revenues generated would improve the public transportation and road systems and decrease congestion.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/18/n...T.nav=top-news
If you can afford to park in NYC you can afford that $11.52
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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It's certainly not an exorbitant amount when you look at what a lot of bridge and tunnel crossing fares. I take public transportation into the city for work but if you have a large enough group going into the city it can be more cost effective to drive. It's up to about $20 pp to take the railroad round trip off peak, and that includes kids older than 11 or so.
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:54 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Solution: leave Manhattan.
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:56 AM
 
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Modern day highwaymen:

noun, plural highwaymen.
1.
(formerly) a holdup man, especially one on horseback, who robbed travelers along a public road.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:05 AM
 
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Driving a car into the busiest parts of Manhattan could cost as much as $11.52, under a major proposal for Gov. Mario Cuomo that would make NYC the first city in the US with a pay-to-drive plan. Due to the explosive growth in NYC, its public transportation system are in bad shape and gridlock traffic has become a big problem. The idea is the revenues generated would improve the public transportation and road systems and decrease congestion.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/18/n...T.nav=top-news
So, the public transportation is in bad shape? Why haven't they been collecting enough and investing in infrastructure over the years? Were they siphoning off those monies for other things and now just want to put one more use tax on the people to pay for something they should have already been maintaining?

Lastly, I'm amused that they're going to improve the road systems to reduce congestion? That's pretty hard to do in a completely built up and confined space like that unless you address root causes of too many vehicles by getting more busses, carpooling etc.

I am neither for nor against it however, that's up to the local voters and leadership to figure out.

I've just seen taxes pour into some cities I've lived in and it gets swallowed up by corruption, pet projects, ghost jobs for relatives, pork payoffs.....and then when basic infrastructure is failing whoops we need MORE taxes.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:28 AM
 
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Driving a car into the busiest parts of Manhattan could cost as much as $11.52, under a major proposal for Gov. Mario Cuomo that would make NYC the first city in the US with a pay-to-drive plan. Due to the explosive growth in NYC, its public transportation system are in bad shape and gridlock traffic has become a big problem. The idea is the revenues generated would improve the public transportation and road systems and decrease congestion.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/18/n...T.nav=top-news
They've talked about this for years, and I hope it finally goes through. There's just too much traffic in the city, and as terrible as the MTA is (another topic), they need the money to make necessary improvements.

The article neglects to mention the main benefit for single white men who live in the city. In general it's easy to pick up a bridge and tunnel girl, but if they have to take public transport in and out of the city, they're far more likely to just find a guy to sleep with then try to head home late night.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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So, all kinds of outrage over being forced to pay to go into a national park...but none for being forced to pay just to go into one of our cities?
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:32 AM
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Driving a car into the busiest parts of Manhattan could cost as much as $11.52, under a major proposal for Gov. Mario Cuomo that would make NYC the first city in the US with a pay-to-drive plan. Due to the explosive growth in NYC, its public transportation system are in bad shape and gridlock traffic has become a big problem. The idea is the revenues generated would improve the public transportation and road systems and decrease congestion.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/18/n...T.nav=top-news
Another plan to raise money because we spend so much on these welfare programs for people who aren't even residents. This state robs Peter to pay Paul and has since his dad was gov.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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That rate isn't all that bad. For example, right here in SW Florida, I pay $2 a day to cross one bridge, and, if you go to Sanibel, it costs $6. I have heard that (I think) San Francisco has some tolls that get into the $20 range.

I've driven in NYC many times, and it is a madhouse. I felt like I was taking my life in my own hands. Maybe this fee will help that, but maybe not. New Yorkers are used to paying big money for everything, from a sandwich to living space. $11 bucks may not be an issue at all.
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