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Old 01-22-2018, 05:27 PM
 
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Who wants completely open borders? I've never seen anyone advocate for that.

I think your misunderstanding some things.
The Founding Fathers did. They wanted this to be a "safe space" for anyone seeking liberty. Open borders, free trade, and a populace of citizens and immigrants who have not yet naturalized living and working together are core to our foundation.

Note that all rights extend to all people with the exception of voting and running for office being restricted to citizens.
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:55 PM
 
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Tens of millions of Americans would be impacted by this, both democratic and republican voters. Millions of American children would not have food to eat.

Why punish children that have no way of changing their situation nor are responsible for being born to mooching parents?

Children should not benefit from their parent's law breaking it's not punishment for the children. What do you mean millions of American children would not have food to eat? Millions of Americans and their children would benefit with the exit of illegal aliens out of our country.
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:57 PM
 
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The Founding Fathers did. They wanted this to be a "safe space" for anyone seeking liberty. Open borders, free trade, and a populace of citizens and immigrants who have not yet naturalized living and working together are core to our foundation.

Note that all rights extend to all people with the exception of voting and running for office being restricted to citizens.

Well we have immigration laws today because it's a whole lot different today in many ways. The founding fathers did not advocate for open borders either.
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:59 PM
 
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Here is my compromise to the open border advocates.

I will agree to completely open borders, if all the entire welfare state public assistance of any kind is stopped completely and never to return.... and full repeal of the 16th Amendment.


Is it a deal?
I’d deal as long as we add they can’t become citizens or vote and their children can’t become citizens either.
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:02 PM
 
Location: California
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We keep falling into the "think of the children" trap instead of expecting people to be responsible for their own children. We actually encourage our own problems.
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:04 PM
 
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The borders can be left "completely open" if the US were to enact two simple laws...
  1. You cannot get a job without being a citizen. Stiff fines to company owners.
  2. You cannot own real estate is you are not a citizen. Stiff fines for sellers and renters.

Problem solved.
3. Can't get tax payer-funded benefits and services without being a citizen
4. Can't get birthright citizenship
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:15 PM
 
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That's a stupid idea.

It does nothing to address security risks or the threat of overpopulation.

Why don't you just leave your front door open all the time too?

Because you don't want to be raped/robbed/murdered in your sleep, I'm guessing.
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:18 PM
 
Location: 89434
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I would deport every illegal alien in this country tomorrow, if I could.
Isn't that one of the reasons why Trump is president, to deal with the illegal immigration issue?
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:21 PM
 
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Isn't that one of the reasons why Trump is president, to deal with the illegal immigration issue?
He would have to deport his wife for having come here illegally.
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Old 01-22-2018, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Boston
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go spend a week in London if you think you like open borders...
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