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Old 02-03-2018, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Brittany Cloyd was doubled over in pain when she arrived at Frankfort Regional Medical Center’s emergency room on July 21, 2017.

“They got me a wheelchair and wheeled me back to a room immediately,” said Cloyd, 27, who lives in Kentucky.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-inappropriate

 
Old 02-03-2018, 04:59 AM
 
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Brittany Cloyd was doubled over in pain when she arrived at Frankfort Regional Medical Center’s emergency room on July 21, 2017.

“They got me a wheelchair and wheeled me back to a room immediately,” said Cloyd, 27, who lives in Kentucky.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-inappropriate
I have heard of this before. I kind of get where insurance companies are going with this. They are trying to stop people from going to the ER for a sore throat or routine illness. Unfortunately, in a lot of cases such as the one referenced, it's a judgement call. Ovarian cysts can be extremely painful but it's really hard to tell what they are and appendicitis is the first thing everyone thinks of.

Not sure what the solution is. I appreciate their perspective that they are trying to keep costs down but thre has to be a line somewhere.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 05:03 AM
 
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The problem is that Vox is a republican light media outlet, that is perfectly fine with a for-profit health care system where people dont have the right to health care (not insurance, but CARE).

If you get a severe illness and cant work, and some politicians demand we join the rest of the world and give the middle finger to the health insurance racket, then Vox will use immense energy to slander and smear such politicians in order to convince the people not to support common sense health care policies.

This is the problem we face. We have two faced liars dominating the mainstream media, pretending to support the people while they are funded by the biggest and most powerful vested interests in the country. And then we have Trump, the man fighting for the ruling donor class while pretending to be a man of the people.

We need fundamental change and that means getting big money out of politics. No other way. Join organizations like wolf-pac and represent.us. Thats what the ruling elite fears.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 05:05 AM
 
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I have heard of this before. I kind of get where insurance companies are going with this. They are trying to stop people from going to the ER for a sore throat or routine illness. Unfortunately, in a lot of cases such as the one referenced, it's a judgement call. Ovarian cysts can be extremely painful but it's really hard to tell what they are and appendicitis is the first thing everyone thinks of.

Not sure what the solution is. I appreciate their perspective that they are trying to keep costs down but thre has to be a line somewhere.
A for-profit system benefits from lots of sick people and lots of unnecessary treatments and medications. They can charge whatever they want and they do. Its fundamentally wrong on so many levels that health care is for-profit and not focused on getting people healthy. This is the debate we must have. Everything else is just window dressing.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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The problem is that nothing they did for her costs anywhere near even a fraction of the bill.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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The problem is that Vox is a republican light media outlet, that is perfectly fine with a for-profit health care system where people dont have the right to health care (not insurance, but CARE).

If you get a severe illness and cant work, and some politicians demand we join the rest of the world and give the middle finger to the health insurance racket, then Vox will use immense energy to slander and smear such politicians in order to convince the people not to support common sense health care policies.

This is the problem we face. We have two faced liars dominating the mainstream media, pretending to support the people while they are funded by the biggest and most powerful vested interests in the country. And then we have Trump, the man fighting for the ruling donor class while pretending to be a man of the people.

We need fundamental change and that means getting big money out of politics. No other way. Join organizations like wolf-pac and represent.us. Thats what the ruling elite fears.
Are you through with your stupid Rant?

The problem goes much deeper than what a lib has to say. The problem as shirftymh said, the charges were way out of line. What hospitals charge period are nuts. But let's face it, we all want good medical care and we are stuck with paying for it.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 05:32 AM
 
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I got electricity going through my heart, from my left arm and out the right arm, 3 years back.

Called my doctor, 10 min later I took an EKG at his office, 30 min later I was at the ER for a full check up and spent the night in the heart ward.

Was checked in the morning, everything was OK. Walked down the stairs and said bye to the personal at the entrance and walked out.


Never seen a bill.


Thats healthcare in Norway.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 05:33 AM
 
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Are you through with your stupid Rant?

The problem goes much deeper than what a lib has to say. The problem as shirftymh said, the charges were way out of line. What hospitals charge period are nuts. But let's face it, we all want good medical care and we are stuck with paying for it.
Are you a hospital administrator and know what it costs to run a hospital? Are you aware that a significant portion of every bill is for malpractice insurance? Are aware many people who visit the emergency room never pay their bills and those costs must be offset by those who do? I don't think we have enough information to proclaim the bill was excessive.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 05:40 AM
 
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I got electricity going through my heart, from my left arm and out the right arm, 3 years back.

Called my doctor, 10 min later I took an EKG at his office, 30 min later I was at the ER for a full check up and spent the night in the heart ward.

Was checked in the morning, everything was OK. Walked down the stairs and said bye to the personal at the entrance and walked out.


Never seen a bill.


Thats healthcare in Norway.
With 75% of paycheck taxed to pay for it.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 05:43 AM
 
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It would cost $12k just to walk in a ER. It's all a scam to rip off people. I would not pay the bill.
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