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Old 02-03-2018, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Old 02-03-2018, 07:45 AM
 
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It will happen if we fight for it. The ruling elite count on people being discouraged. Far higher obstacles have been overcome in the past by people willing to fight even though the personal consequences for themselves were severe.
You have to take profit out of the game. As well as government oversight. They are not the answer and generally over bloat things such as cost and red tape.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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As long as insurance companies dictate what kind of health care we can have and how much they will pay out for medical expenses we are all screwed unless you are very wealthy or very poor. It's no wonder so many people have to file bankruptcy due to medical expenses even while they are insured.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 08:24 AM
 
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Are you a hospital administrator and know what it costs to run a hospital? Are you aware that a significant portion of every bill is for malpractice insurance? Are aware many people who visit the emergency room never pay their bills and those costs must be offset by those who do? I don't think we have enough information to proclaim the bill was excessive.
Thank you! And, of course another portion covers various costs such as diversity training and the thousands of regulations in place.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 09:01 AM
 
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With 75% of paycheck taxed to pay for it.
It is more like 32%.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Brittany Cloyd was doubled over in pain when she arrived at Frankfort Regional Medical Center’s emergency room on July 21, 2017.

“They got me a wheelchair and wheeled me back to a room immediately,” said Cloyd, 27, who lives in Kentucky.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-inappropriate
States have historically regulated insurers. States can define a medical emergency or allow insurers to do so. States decide what an insurer must cover. No two states have the same regulations.

In a post ACA enviornment, states retain tremendeous flexibility beyond the 10 Essential Healthcare Benefits.

50 different state regulations seriously impacts the viability and ability to sell insurance across state lines.

Generally speaking, insurers have the ability to deny or limit claims for healthcare services recieved while abroad. Some insurers do. Many insurers exclude preexisting conditions or cap claims made. Most will not cover a medically necessary evacuation. Travel/ accident insurance can be acquired online. No 2 plans are the same and the devil is in the detail.

Last edited by middle-aged mom; 02-03-2018 at 09:37 AM..
 
Old 02-03-2018, 09:37 AM
 
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Never seen a bill? Really? So you never, ever paid into it? Strange how your experience is different than others in Norway.

"In Norway on an average income we pay around 28-32%. All food items are taxed 14% except essentials and all other items are taxed 25%. 80% of petrol price is tax. Our taxes are so high because the government ‘health’ taxes us – the more you earn the more ‘health tax’ you pay no matter how healthy you are. I think a lot of Norwegians would just prefer to pay the US$500 a month rather than the extra ‘health’ tax, it would be a lot cheaper."

"Norway is one of the most heavily taxed countries in the world with a total tax burden of roughly 45% of GDP– almost 4x Hong Kong and nearly twice the US. VAT here is a whopping 25%. Personal income tax rates border 55%. Corporate profits tax ranges from 28% to as high as 78%."

But it's free, right?
"In Norway on an average income we pay around 28-32%

or

"Personal income tax rates border 55%"

So which is correct? I am confused.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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The problem is that nothing they did for her costs anywhere near even a fraction of the bill.
That's always the case with medical care. The Republican mantra of "let the free market decide" is exactly the reason why. Well, that and extreme greed.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The problem is that Vox is a republican light media outlet, that is perfectly fine with a for-profit health care system where people dont have the right to health care (not insurance, but CARE).

If you get a severe illness and cant work, and some politicians demand we join the rest of the world and give the middle finger to the health insurance racket, then Vox will use immense energy to slander and smear such politicians in order to convince the people not to support common sense health care policies.

This is the problem we face. We have two faced liars dominating the mainstream media, pretending to support the people while they are funded by the biggest and most powerful vested interests in the country. And then we have Trump, the man fighting for the ruling donor class while pretending to be a man of the people.

We need fundamental change and that means getting big money out of politics. No other way. Join organizations like wolf-pac and represent.us. Thats what the ruling elite fears.
Vox leans left.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The problem is that nothing they did for her costs anywhere near even a fraction of the bill.
Wonder what the bill would have been if the patient was a German National?

Likely it would have been a fraction of the $12k in this instance.
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