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Old 02-11-2018, 11:29 AM
 
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Contact tRump and Sessions.

Demand that they lock her up.

After all, tRump told everyone on earth that he intended to do exactly that.

What's he afraid of?

That's what I've been wondering.

Why is that layabout Sessions not getting after it?


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Old 02-11-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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That's what I've been wondering.

Why is Sessions not getting after it.

He's the strong silent type waiting for the IG report it is rumored.
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:39 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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https://nypost.com/2018/02/10/peelin...ns-deceit/amp/

Lays it all out.

"Thus, the Democratic nominee paid for and created allegations against her Republican opponent,
The Trump Fusion GPS investigation was started by republicans who opposed Trump during the GOP primary (and later in the presidential campaign democrats began funding the same Fusion GPS investigation into Trump.)
Conservative website funded initial Fusion GPS anti-Trump resear - KTVQ.com | Q2 | Continuous News Coverage | Billings, MT
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...-trump-dossier
Conservative website first paid Fusion GPS for Trump research that led to dossier - Chicago Tribune

It was republicans that started the investigation process of creating the dossier. And "Hillary Clinton was unaware of the now-infamous dossier of allegations about Donald Trump and Russia prior to Buzzfeed's publishing of the document" (Hillary didn't even know about the dossier.)
Hillary Clinton unaware of dossier before it published - CNNPolitics

Political campaigns both republican and democrat commonly start investigations into their political opponents, these investigations are called "opposition research."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.1713908c748d

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gave them to law enforcement, then tipped friendly media to the investigation. And it is almost certain FBI agents supporting Clinton were among the anonymous sources.

In fact, the Clinton connections are so fundamental that there probably would not have been an FBI investigation without her involvement.

That makes hers a brazen work of political genius — and perhaps the dirtiest dirty trick ever played in presidential history. Following her manipulation of the party operation to thwart Bernie Sanders in the primary, Clinton is revealed as relentlessly ruthless in her quest to be president.

The only thing that went wrong is that she lost the election. And based on what we know now, her claims about Trump were false.
The FBI published a letter saying the agency reopened the Hillary Clinton email investigation 11 days before the 2016 presidential election. Its possible the FBI letter "might have shifted the race by 3 or 4 percentage points toward Donald Trump, swinging Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida to him, perhaps along with North Carolina and Arizona" (and its possible the FBI letter caused Hillary to loose the 2016 presidential election.)
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-the-election/

News of the FBI reopening the Hillary Clinton investigation "dominated the headlines of major media outlets in the days leading up to the election. Stocks fell sharply and Clinton's poll numbers dropped by 3 points over subsequent days." And it can be argued that the FBI letter caused Hillary Clinton to loose the 2016 presidential election.
Comey on Clinton-Trump investigations and 2016 election - Business Insider

What did the FBI do to hurt, disrupt or hinder Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign?
Or does the evidence suggest the FBI helped Trump more than Hillary in the 2016 election?
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I am tired of Media enabled CORRUPTION just because they agree with what they think is the enlightened, evolved PROGRESSIVE, far left agenda of the Democrats. I am tired of the end justifying the means. It has to end. Politicians need to go to JAIL. Lose their careers, benefits, and pensions for life. Career politicians have become like unaccountable Royalty. That is not the American way. Both parties have corrupt career politicians, and they all need to swing, yet people want a Globalist government where it is even harder to hold the ruling class accountable.
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Old 02-11-2018, 12:19 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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The Trump Fusion GPS investigation was started by republicans who opposed Trump during the GOP primary (and later in the presidential campaign democrats began funding the same Fusion GPS investigation into Trump.)
Conservative website funded initial Fusion GPS anti-Trump resear - KTVQ.com | Q2 | Continuous News Coverage | Billings, MT
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...-trump-dossier
Conservative website first paid Fusion GPS for Trump research that led to dossier - Chicago Tribune

It was republicans that started the investigation process of creating the dossier. And "Hillary Clinton was unaware of the now-infamous dossier of allegations about Donald Trump and Russia prior to Buzzfeed's publishing of the document" (Hillary didn't even know about the dossier.)
Hillary Clinton unaware of dossier before it published - CNNPolitics

Political campaigns both republican and democrat commonly start investigations into their political opponents, these investigations are called "opposition research."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.1713908c748d
Since when does "opposition research" involve making up complete lies about the other candidate, and feeding those lies to the FBI and to the media?


From the NY Post article under discussion:


"It also reveals that two former journalists linked to Clinton, separately identified as the odious Sidney Blumenthal and a man named Cody Shearer, created and gave a State Department official additional unverified allegations against Trump.

The official passed those documents to Steele, who passed them to the FBI, which reportedly saw them as further evidence that Trump worked with Russians. But as Grassley, head of the Judiciary Committee, and Graham write, “It is troubling enough that the Clinton Campaign funded Mr. Steele’s work, but that these Clinton associates were contemporaneously feeding Mr. Steele allegations raises additional concerns about his credibility.”
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Old 02-11-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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Why are you more concerned about a "has been" that holds no public office then you are a corrupt and spiteful president that is tearing the country apart right now?
It's a distraction from what a disaster the current Trump presidency is. Check out the latest documentaries out on Trumps past history on Netflix (Dirty Money series). Want to talk about corruption, deceit and lies? Hillary has got nothing compared to this man.

We are literally witnessing the biggest con on the American public and this is why they want to talk about Hillary.
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Old 02-11-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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With Hillary, we're just not talking about private business dealings, although she was involved in the Whitewater Scandal. Most of Hillary's corruption has been in the PUBLIC SECTOR either while in office, or as the first lady when Bill was governor then president. She has abused her position, and her power. None of it was earned, nor from private entrepreneurship. She is a scourge, and happily will fade into Chardonnay induced obscurity.
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Old 02-11-2018, 03:16 PM
 
Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Why are you more concerned about a "has been" that holds no public office then you are a corrupt and spiteful president that is tearing the country apart right now?
If you haven't noticed, there is an special prosecutor and official investigation open to try to prove that the President worked with the Russians to win the election. As the layers of the onion get peeled back it is beginning to look more and more like it was Hillary that "colluded" with them and then turned it all around to make it look like it was Trump.

I think that is worth being concerned about.
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Old 02-11-2018, 03:26 PM
 
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Trump has been President for a year. Aren't the top brass at the top in the DOJ all his hand picked appointees? Aren't his picks leading both the FBI and the CIA now?

If so, why hasn't President Trump ordered the Clintons indicted or arrested? Or at least arranged for a special counsel to investigate them?

Seems like he certainly should. I'd support him in that effort.
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Old 02-11-2018, 03:33 PM
 
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If you haven't noticed, there is an special prosecutor and official investigation open to try to prove that the President worked with the Russians to win the election. As the layers of the onion get peeled back it is beginning to look more and more like it was Hillary that "colluded" with them and then turned it all around to make it look like it was Trump.

I think that is worth being concerned about.
I think it is too. But, one side's possible guilt doesn't necessarily mean the other's hands are lily white.

So, a full investigations of both sides certainly seems justified. Appoint another special prosecutor to look into the Clintons, but also let Mueller conclude his investigation. I have no problem with that at all. Let's get to the bottom of the FULL story of what happened during the 2016 election. Democrats, Republicans, Russians. Let the chips fall where they may.

I'm behind that idea 100%. At this point, it seems like the only way for the American public to learn the whole truth so that we can move forward.
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