Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
5,277 posts, read 2,801,130 times
Reputation: 1932
Advertisements
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartacus713
The DOJ/FBI started this off, well before that. Remember that they had received the "dossier" from Steele in August 2016, and before that they were investigating the phishing attack on the DNC server that was enabled by John Podesta providing his login credentials to what was apparently a pretty obvious scam phishing email. This was all a part of what eventually was handed over to Robert Mueller by the DOJ.
I agree with your points.
Yes they did have a running start.
However, tossing in an entire fix of Russians that required researching and indictments added tons of work.
Imagine how much man power it took to figure out who all these Russians were and to prove to a grand jury you have enough evidence to likely prevail at trial.
Guantanamo Bay for the Russians would keep them warm.
However, tossing in an entire fix of Russians that required researching and indictments added tons of work.
Imagine how much man power it took to figure out who all these Russians were and to prove to a grand jury you have enough evidence to likely prevail at trial.
Guantanamo Bay for the Russians would keep them warm.
Wonder if Trump will waterboard them.
As Rosenstein, Mueller and company know very well, all of the indicted are Russian citizens that reside in Russia. The prospects of any of them being extradited or of ever seeing the inside of an American courthouse is so close to zero that there is no point trying to measure the difference.
This is just a P.R. ploy. Nothing is going to happen as a result of this.
Also, as you have probably heard, most grand juries are notorious for their lax standards, and are apparently willing to indict "a ham sandwich" if a DA (or special prosecutor) recommends it. In this case, it is very doubtful that the charges would succeed if the alleged perpetrators did appear, as they are not based on solidly established law.
This really is some remarkably weak sauce these guys are serving up at this point.
Anyway, back to Gates flipping and working out a plea deal.
Rick Gates, who Ed Brayton on Pathos describes as Robin to Manafort's Batman, had what criminal lawyers call a "Queen for a Day" interview, an interview in which he answered all the prosecutors' questions including about his own case as well as any criminal activity he witnessed.
As he outlasted Manafort, traveling with Trump through the campaign and staying on through the inauguration, that could cover a lot of territory.
He reportedly spent a lot of time in the WH after the inauguration. Wonder what info he has for Mueller?
Bannon spent 20 hours with Mueller's team this week as well.
I don't trust any of that Mueller bunch. I hope they get what is coming to them. Can you really trust testimony from someone who has made a deal? I say "NO."
I don't trust any of that Mueller bunch. I hope they get what is coming to them. Can you really trust testimony from someone who has made a deal? I say "NO."
I don't trust any of that Mueller bunch. I hope they get what is coming to them. Can you really trust testimony from someone who has made a deal? I say "NO."
Yes, you can. Defendants enter into plea deals all the time in exchange for testimony as cooperative witnesses. There’s no need to make these ignorant statements about our criminal justice system simply because you dislike the outcome from the investigation. #Triggered
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
5,277 posts, read 2,801,130 times
Reputation: 1932
Quote:
Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould
Anyway, back to Gates flipping and working out a plea deal.
Rick Gates, who Ed Brayton on Pathos describes as Robin to Manafort's Batman, had what criminal lawyers call a "Queen for a Day" interview, an interview in which he answered all the prosecutors' questions including about his own case as well as any criminal activity he witnessed.
As he outlasted Manafort, traveling with Trump through the campaign and staying on through the inauguration, that could cover a lot of territory.
The fact that he did stay on indeed makes Gates a very troubling witness. This could account for conservative calls to pardon him and the other cohorts.
I have a real problem with pardons given life long criminals like Manafort and Gates.
They have escaped taxation and have hidden wealth around the world. Just because they got involved in politics and know too much about what Trump did is no justification to pardon them.
If Flynn was an honorable man, then he may be the exception, however Flynn brought dishonor upon the US Military by directly violating requirements he was reminded of in writing.
Anyway, back to Gates flipping and working out a plea deal.
Rick Gates, who Ed Brayton on Pathos describes as Robin to Manafort's Batman, had what criminal lawyers call a "Queen for a Day" interview, an interview in which he answered all the prosecutors' questions including about his own case as well as any criminal activity he witnessed.
As he outlasted Manafort, traveling with Trump through the campaign and staying on through the inauguration, that could cover a lot of territory.
In addition to being Manafort's right hand man, Gates was also a fund raiser for the RNC (also see: money laundering) and a member of the Trump Inauguration Committee.
Yessiree> But much of these cases may be not just Federal of STATES that "$$" was laundered.. which means.. DJT cannot pardon!!!!
... and Trump's tax returns: if it is found Trump had substantial unreported under-the-table money from Russia, he could be wide open to tax evasion charges.
DJT Tax returns are already available to Mueller's Investigation and no doubt Kushner's, Manaforts, Flynn's, Gates, Papodopolous's.. It's a given the Special Council already has that info!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by trobesmom
That's probably not the only thing Trump has done. Stay tuned.
DJT has a very long history .. and Older folks know it.. Pay-off's and bullying of any accusers.. confidentially agreements (LONG LONG HISTORY) and used his $$$ tohave lawyer's do his "DIRTY WORK"!! DJT is nothing but a HUCKSTER and LIES like a RUG!! DJT has no morals nor values... something Melania understands 100%!!!
^^^ All coloured postings are mind ^^^
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
