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Old 03-07-2018, 11:30 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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This entire notion of pets being treated as one's offspring has to stop.

I own a home in Central Florida that is very pet friendly which I'm fine with, but seeing women with their dogs in strollers is disturbing. These are not old dogs (or old ladies)...this is simply how MANY women there "walk" their dogs. When we moved there almost 5 years ago, we saw it once in awhile. Now it is daily, dozens of them.

Frankly, it's embarrassing.

Re: the OP. We owned dogs throughout our lives and when I worked if a person called in to say their dog died/put to sleep and asked for the day or afternoon off, using their personal/vacation time, I never said, no, even in busy seasons. But the idea of giving extra time off for pawternity leave is wrong and not fair to non-pet owners. Let companies be generous with the number of vacation and personal days and let each employee decide how to use their time off.
Why? Just because you don't approve of the behavior? Strangers do lots of things I find obnoxious or annoying, but unless the activity is dangerous it's none of my business.
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Old 03-07-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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Why? Just because you don't approve of the behavior? Strangers do lots of things I find obnoxious or annoying, but unless the activity is dangerous it's none of my business.
This is a matter of common sense.
The whole post of that poster was just that - COMMON SENSE.
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Old 03-07-2018, 11:53 AM
 
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I agree that "pawternity leave" sounds a little silly. But I think it speaks to the fact that Americans in general don't get enough vacation time. I would rather see everyone's vacation time go up by at least a few weeks, and people with a new puppy can take some vacation time to work on bonding and training. (I have had a new puppy, and it does take a lot of time.)

But hey, this is the free market, and if companies want to do this, that is their prerogative.
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Old 03-07-2018, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Why? Just because you don't approve of the behavior? Strangers do lots of things I find obnoxious or annoying, but unless the activity is dangerous it's none of my business.
Reading comprehension. I have no issue with HOW people use their vacation/personal time off. But codifying every single thing that qualifies for "extra" time off is silly. It's like saying everyone gets extra time off when they have to wait for a plumber or the cable guy. Whether someone needs time off for raising a puppy or remodeling their kitchen, let them use their personal leave time.

Give everyone a good amount of vacation, personal and sick days and let them use it as they see fit.
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Old 03-07-2018, 12:12 PM
 
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Americans work too many hours. Europeans typically get 5-6 weeks of paid vacation each year.

If a company wants to offer unique benefits to employees, such as time off for a new pet, then good for that company. They want to do this in order to compete against other companies for the best talent. With the ecomony at full employement, companies are having to increase wages and increase benefits in order to attrack workers.

Giving paid time off for a new pet is just another way to attract employees.

It's a good thing for American workers if more paid time off is offered. We're still light years behind Europeans as far as paid time off.
I agree. If a company can help their employees be more productive and happy in their positions, that is a plus. More power to them!

And who are we to find fault with anything that increases job security and productivity.
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Old 03-07-2018, 12:13 PM
 
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Hasn't been shown to be true at all.
Some people strive to get ahead and contribute and make money. Others want a less challenging less stressful life and job.

I belonged to group 'A'. I am retired now, but when I went looking for a job I went looking for opportunity, not comfort and security.

Government bureaucracies are filled with security seekers who want a fairly easy job with great benefits. The governments habit of paying more in order to attract the 'best and the brightest' has been an abject failure.
LMAO, a retired person is always a great source of information on the current job market. Don't you have people to run off your lawn?
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Old 03-07-2018, 12:16 PM
 
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I agree that "pawternity leave" sounds a little silly. But I think it speaks to the fact that Americans in general don't get enough vacation time.
Indeed. I still fondly remember working in Germany and being gently chided by the CEO for not taking a proper vacation - spending my six weeks off in one- and two-week breaks didn't leave time for getting proper rest, in his opinion.
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Old 03-07-2018, 12:17 PM
 
Location: London
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Or the fact that many workplaces don't even give time off for illness. It's absurd, yet when a company offers something like this, or more paid sick or vacation time, or higher starting pay, they are mocked by the very people who don't enjoy those benefits.

I think American workers have a collective case of Stockholm Syndrome.
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Americans work too many hours. Europeans typically get 5-6 weeks of paid vacation each year.

If a company wants to offer unique benefits to employees, such as time off for a new pet, then good for that company. They want to do this in order to compete against other companies for the best talent. With the ecomony at full employement, companies are having to increase wages and increase benefits in order to attrack workers.

Giving paid time off for a new pet is just another way to attract employees.

It's a good thing for American workers if more paid time off is offered. We're still light years behind Europeans as far as paid time off.
And yet we wonder why Americans have such a high rate of mental health issues compared to people in other developed nations...
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Old 03-07-2018, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Marquette, Mich
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I worked at a private sector company that was generous with benefits, compared to competitors. A couple of years in, they announced everyone got a day off for their birthday--arranged with manager, within a couple of days, etc. Did it really change anything? No. It wasn't a significant issue. Was it popular? Heck, yeah! That company got a lot of good vibes for that.

I now work in a public sector job. Our PTO is ridiculously good, especially after you've worked here for 5+ years. We earn annual leave (vacation), get generous sick leave, have personal leave, and a tiered family-care leave. We also have a very good bereavement leave package. We actually discussed at some point adding pets to the bereavement package, but we're not quite there. Individual managers HAVE allowed this. On the flip side, our pay is relatively low. So it's a good way to attract and keep talented workers.
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Old 03-07-2018, 12:36 PM
 
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My current and last workplaces have "unlimited" PTO. Popular with attracting top talent and good for the bean counters as there isn't a bunch of earned PTO sitting on the books.
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